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Old 6th July 2009, 11:41 PM
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Re: Reliable Bulk Biodiesel Supply

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Originally Posted by gbossley View Post
Hi Simon,

I can't help myself. Having had a quick look at their website, I suspect (OF COURSE I COULD BE WRONG) they are producing from palm oil.

Great idea if you hate the planet, and don't care if Orang Utangs (and who knows what else) are wiped out in the wild.

I actually disagree with the idea of production of biodiesel when land is cleared of native vegetation to do it.

If you can sleep comfortably with making a contribution to the elimination of wildlife, go on ahead.

Again, I COULD BE ALL WRONG, but there has been a fair amount of publicity about this issue, and some people care, and some don't.

Cheers,
Gordon.
I am not sure caring about Orang Utangs is the issue, but perhaps perspective, as if you care about Orang Utangs you will also need to.......
1) Not make biodiesel from second hand oil originating from asia (explain to the restraunter you will gladly accept oil that has not come from asia, to encourage him to not buy it from there) if he wants to buy it from there he needs to dispose of it otherwise. If its new or second hand there isnt a lot of difference.
2) Not eat meat, as vegetable growing is far more efficient land use than growing meat to eat. Even if the meat is australian its causing people to buy their oil off shore, putting pressure on land use. All agricultre encourages land clearing. (I believe American beef is fed enough grain to feed the third world. A strong argument for going vego?)
3) Not use fossil fuel, as after all there is not much point the Orang Utangs having rainforest thats under a low level sea, or that has died off due to climate change*
4) grow all your vegies yourself, so they are not transported in trucks burning diesel.
5) Bicycle. It doesnt need oil changes......

The big danger with the "biofuels kill Orang Utangs" argument is, what else are you going to do? use nice clean fossil fuel that doesnt harm the environment? (lets not mention "exxon valdeze" and damage the clean environment image?)
Of course if you are doing these things, you are a legend!

*Ok I said "climate change" I meant global warming. I think "climate change" is a bit like "having non consensual sex with the environment" it sounds nicer than raping it.....
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Chris.
1990 landcruiser 80, 1HD-T two tank, copper pipe HE+ 20 plate FPHE, toyota solenoids and filters. 1978 300D, elsbett one tank system. 1979 300D veg oil/ diesel blend for now.

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