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jonneeb
3rd June 2012, 06:29 PM
Hi
Recently moved to Adelaide from the UK and I'm wondering what the law is regarding making Biodiesel for personal use in SA?
I've made Bio in the UK for the past 5 years with good results and would like to start brewing again.
Any advice on the law etc. gratefully received.

Cheers,Jonneeb

SUZUDDIS
9th June 2012, 04:05 PM
Jonneeb

try to catch up with some of the local brewers. they will inform you of what happens with the Australian tax laws.
you'll also get to know anyone who can help or more importantly find out where not to collect from and who also collects from what areas. that way you know you aren't stepping on anyones toes as well.

Good luck
Michael

Johnnojack
15th June 2012, 12:46 AM
We don't actually make Biodiesel for use on the road. ;).We make experimental batches to see how it turns out, and to get the glycerine byproduct. Some might make it to use on their hobbyfarm or for heating. The reason no-one makes it to use in their car is you need to register as a producer and pay tax on it.

jonneeb
16th June 2012, 12:12 PM
Hi,
Understand, so, can you point me in the right direction to find the government legal stuff then that tells me how much tax, how to register etc etc so I can see if it's worth doing?
What do you do with the Glycerine by-product?

Whereabouts are you in SA?

Cheers for the info.

Jonneeb


We don't actually make Biodiesel for use on the road. ;).We make experimental batches to see how it turns out, and to get the glycerine byproduct. Some might make it to use on their hobbyfarm or for heating. The reason no-one makes it to use in their car is you need to register as a producer and pay tax on it.

phil2042
1st October 2012, 12:33 PM
Hi Jonneeb

I am just starting out make some backyard biodiesel on Adelaide. Have you made any progress?

Cheers
Phil2042

jonneeb
3rd October 2012, 09:57 AM
Hi Jonneeb

I am just starting out make some backyard biodiesel on Adelaide. Have you made any progress?

Cheers
Phil2042
Hi Phil
Unfortunately, No, we are still living in rented accomodation so, as the job can be a bit messy, I think it may be better to wait until we have our own place!
Where are you based? I made Biodiesel in the UK for about 5 years before coming out here so if I can be of any help please just ask away.
Cheers,
Jon

phil2042
3rd October 2012, 09:52 PM
Hi Jon

I am based at Modbury. Happy to catch up and talk biodiesel.

Phil2042

Tim-HJ61
6th October 2012, 12:31 AM
I think JohnnoJack may have been pulling your leg a bit....

The only stories I've heard about people lodging their biofuel taxation return with the fuel excise department are that they get frowned at and told to come back when they're doing thousands of litres a month, not fifty.

However, that said, the rules are that you are not allowed to mix excisable fuel with non excisable fuel and that you must pay fuel tax, I think it's something around 47c/l, on the biodiesel you produce. I've yet to hear of anyone that has a regular relationship with the fuel excise people, so perhaps it's because all the bio is made for the glycerol after all :-)

Tim

jonneeb
6th October 2012, 12:22 PM
Ah, my understanding is improving.
Thank you.

jonneeb
6th October 2012, 12:37 PM
Hi Phil,
I'm in Port Noarlunga but I work in Daw Park so I'd probably come to you from work.
How far along with reactor build, regular oil supply etd are you?
Cheers,
Jonneeb

phil2042
6th October 2012, 08:03 PM
Hi
I am still making test batches in 2 lt bottles. Collected 20 lt of used veggie oil from a friend.... so extremely basic start. Do you have a pic of the reactor you have used in the past?
Phil

jonneeb
8th October 2012, 08:00 PM
Hi Phil
Understand where you are now. Yes, I have photo's of the set up I built in the UK, pm me your email address and I'll send them over, for some reason this forum won't accept the pictures..
It was made from an old copper hot water cylinder, I aquired the pipework from a friend and only really paid for the valves as I maanged to get my paws on most everything else for free.
I suggest you secure a regular supply of oil before building anything of any size, could save you plenty of time and money too.
I was regularly processing 90 Litre batches back in the UK, with some really good results.
If you want any help setting up just let me know.

phil2042
9th October 2012, 06:57 PM
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Look forward to a photo or two.

Cheers, Phil


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SABiofuels
1st December 2012, 10:41 AM
Hi Guys just new to this forum, I own a company which makes mid size biodiesel units in South Australia. With answers to the excise question the government wants 38.1c per litre for biodiesel which does not meet the australian fuel standard, the same standard which is used in the UK and Europe. By law even if you are only making biodiesel for homer use or to make glycerine you still have to be registered with the ATO as the government has taxed not "biodiesel" but "methyl Ester".

if you test you fuel to the standard and it passes you dont have to pay the excise and this is a rebate process through AusIndustries.

currently there is only one company which tests fuel in australia for the public but this cost over $3k for all the tests.

we are looking up setting a lab up to allow small scale produces like you guys to get samples tested more cost effectivly.

happy biodiesel making

cheers morgan

phil2042
1st December 2012, 05:42 PM
Hi Morgan

Good luck with the manufacturing of Biodiesel units. And with setting up the lab for testing. I would like to stay in touch with how it is all developing.

Phil

jonneeb
8th February 2014, 03:35 PM
Hey Phil,
How are you getting on with making the golden nectar?
Did you get the photo's I sent?
Cheers
Jon

phil2042
9th February 2014, 04:48 PM
Hey Phil,
How are you getting on with making the golden nectar?
Did you get the photo's I sent?
Cheers
Jon

Hi Jon

It has been awhile since our last contact. Yes. I got the photos but not long after you sent them through I stopped the project. More paid work came up.... then it all seemed too hard to get started again. So, enough of the sad story.

Thanks for your interest in my progress. In fact your contact has refired my own interest in making biofuel. Perhaps I should start again

Where are you up to with biodiesel?

Cheers
Phil

jonneeb
10th February 2014, 06:57 PM
Hi Jon

It has been awhile since our last contact. Yes. I got the photos but not long after you sent them through I stopped the project. More paid work came up.... then it all seemed too hard to get started again. So, enough of the sad story.

Thanks for your interest in my progress. In fact your contact has refired my own interest in making biofuel. Perhaps I should start again

Where are you up to with biodiesel?

Cheers
Phil

Hey Phil,
Totally understand regarding the paid work etc. You have to follow the money!
You should start up again, it's not difficult to do and the reqards are great, especially when you drive past a servo!!!
I'm still not producing because we're still living in a rental property so I would have to be very careful about not making a mess anywhere or we could lose our deposit.
However, I am now very carefully planning how I CAN start to make it at this property, currently putting feelers out about getting my hands on the bits I need to build the reactor.
Let me know if you need any help etc.
Cheers
jon

phil2042
13th February 2014, 01:09 PM
Hi Jon

I will get out the info that you sent me and have another read. I think it would be good to get started again. I will be in touch.
I am sure I will have a question or two when I get going.

good luck with the search for part to use in a new reactor.

Phil

Phil

jonneeb
14th February 2014, 01:47 PM
Hi Phil,
Give me a shout if you need any help.
Cheers
Jon