list of suitable and unsuitable fuel pumps

[aussie bloke Member Find all posts View Profile Close aussie bloke]

hello everyone ,
I thought i would start a list of fuel pumps that are suitable and unsuitable for veggie oil, i have spent $1,600 on them, here are the types and kms done before stopping.
1/ mallory comp pump series 70, 3000kms.
2/ carter fuel pump, 50kms.
3/ 2 x high pressure pumps for a vl 500kms.
4/ facet pump [still runs iam using it for a transfer pump] not suitable for a v8, 4 cyl is fine.
5/ 3 x v.d.o gear oil pumps still running 3000kms
anyone out there who would like to add to the list.


regards mark

[Robert Administrator Find all posts View Profile Close Robert]

Re: list of suitable and unsuitable fuel pumps

Hey Mark - very useful for the veggie oilers -thanks (on their behalves ).
Land Rover wanted $1600 for an ordinary OEM (VDO) electric pump just to pump diesel so I think you got a good deal to get 5 pumps for the price of one of theirs.
I hope your 5th pump option keeps working for you.

[Cheeky Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cheeky]

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Hi Mark,

I am trying to find a suitable pump which doesn't cost an arm & leg. I found Plantdrive was selling what they called a "Vegoil" lift pump for US$110 . As far as I can find out this is a Walbro 6065 and I have asked on the Frybrid forum and this seems to be the pump of choice by most apparently also recommended by Chris Goodwin. I have priced the pump and delivery at www.fuel-pumps.net and with economy delivery price was US$189

Still undecided, wish I could find a recommended pump which was available here. Aaron was using a cheap pump think it was a Facet which was working OK at that moment, don't know whether this is still the case. He did have a Mallory which gave him some trouble also.

Cheeky

[Aaron Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Aaron]

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Hi everyone,

Thought I would let you all know that I am still using the cheap pump. After using more expensive pumps with no luck, thought I would try a 14psi Facet pump, which only cost $80 at our local auto shop and so far it has done 25 000km with no problems.

Aaron.

[aussie bloke Member Find all posts View Profile Close aussie bloke]

Re: list of suitable and unsuitable fuel pumps

hi guys,
anyone interested in buying some pumps only used once to drive to church there going ''cheap''
cheers mark.

[Cheeky Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cheeky]

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Hi Aaron,

Anymore model detail on that Facet pump and where you got it.

Thanks,

Cheeky

[aussie bloke Member Find all posts View Profile Close aussie bloke]

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hi aaron,
dino has only 1 z9 filter head, i have asked him to track another one down.
hi cheeky,
the facet pumps are great for 4 clys i am running 2 on my truck to fill my veggie tank from the trucks main tank, they are almost indestructible, its a good idea to run 1 next to the tank and 1 after the filter, you can buy them from repco.
cheers mark

[aussie bloke Member Find all posts View Profile Close aussie bloke]

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hi guys,
this is a diagram of my conversion, but i am going to change the dead head system to fuel return out of the heads, should get another 70 hp.
cheers mark

[Cheeky Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cheeky]

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Hi Mark,

Just noticed your comment on using a Facet pump as a transfer pump, I assume you mean to fill your tank from bulk containers? I was thinking that this may be option as transfer pumps aren't that cheap. I was thinking I might setup a sealed fill and return line from the tank back to bulk container so that slower fill rates weren't a problem and I could walk away and leave it without worry of it overflowing the tank. Do you know what sort of flow rates you get out of the Facet when used as a transfer pump?

Thanks for posting the diagram, I had been thinking that 2 check valves should work well if you had separate lift pumps. I'm curious about the arrangement of your returns. Would you mind explaining why you have WVO returns to tank and pump suction.

Regards,

Cheeky

[aussie bloke Member Find all posts View Profile Close aussie bloke]

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hi cheeky,
The facet pumps are very slow as a transfer pump, to fill a 60lt tank would take 20 min, through a 3/8 line, you could go faster with 1/2, the pumps are on the truck permanent, i can transfer fuel in transit from the trucks main tank.
The reason for the 2 returns is one runs unrestricted from before the boost pump back to the suction and gets hotter and hotter, the 2nd line returns after the pressure regulator and ip, this ensures any air is discharged out of the system.
cheers mark

[Cheeky Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cheeky]

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Thanks Mark,

Cheeky

[aussie bloke Member Find all posts View Profile Close aussie bloke]

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i have a small problem with my vdo oil pumps, if you leave your vehicle stationary for 3 weeks the brushes don't make contact with the armature,
very easy fix just run some thinners through the pump for 5 minutes and she's right.

[Mr Ute Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mr Ute]

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Has anyone had any dealings with the Walbro or Shurflo pumps? Is a Mallory worth looking at? I'm after something that will cope better in cooler climate here. Aussie bloke got 49kms more out of his carter that I did out of mine. I'm currently using a Holley - but it is really struggling to cope.

[Matt Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Matt]

Re: list of suitable and unsuitable fuel pumps

Walbro 6065 pump is available in Australia, Flexible Drive Agencies in your state for about $190 Australian.

Matt

[Mr Ute Member Find all posts View Profile Close Mr Ute]

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Thanks Matt, does the Walbro 6065 pump unheated UCO or does it need to be heated first?

Aussie Bloke, does the VDO pump unheated oil ok? or are you heating prior to the pump?