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Fuel'in Good
17th August 2006, 03:35 PM
Firstly I would like to apologise for getting some of you a little excited with my title. I am referring of cause to the non toxic variety, however, as I work in marketing I just couldn't help myself :D .

Anyhow, I recall watching a video (possibly called "The Hemp Revolution", or something like that) in the mid nineties about all the fantastic uses for hemp. One use was in its great ability to produce ethanol with very little input cost, especially non use of pesticides.

Can anyone update me on what is happening in this industry, I know that some permits were given to grow test crops but haven't heard anything since. Is hemp still a viable solution and if so how does it rate against other ethanol cropping options?

cheers
Fuel'in
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Sauman
17th August 2006, 04:44 PM
Hi Feel in Good,
I did a post on hemp a while back.
Industrial hemp has a huge potential.Not only for the oil but for bio mass,clothing heaps and heaps of application.Look at what is happening in the hemp Industry in Canada.It is indeed a revolution.
But if you thinking of doing it in oz:D :D :D ....forget it.To hard.Yes mate,you have to buy certain seeds which is sold by the govt and aren't very high yeilding ...bla bla bla.

Cheers
Sauman

Fuel'in Good
17th August 2006, 05:03 PM
Thanks Sauman, quite possibly an oil company influenced govt decision. Unfortunately the govt (both of them!) will learn the error of their ways when it is too late and the commons will suffer while they ride it out on some island in the pacific with plenty of coconuts!!! However this is the result of a stupid majority of people that vote for their immediate selfish short term gains in mind (human nature unfortunately). I think maybe the piper could be returning to Hamlin to collect.

Alright I'll get of the soap box now.

Fuel'in.

Sauman
18th August 2006, 12:08 AM
HI Folks
Just for Knowledge
HEMP FACTS

1) Hemp is among the oldest industries on the planet, going back more than 10,000 years to the beginnings of pottery. The Columbia History of the World states that the oldest relic of human industry is a bit of hemp fabric dating back to approximately 8,000 BC.
2) Presidents Washington and Jefferson both grew hemp. Americans were legally bound to grow hemp during the Colonial Era and Early Republic. The federal government subsidized hemp during the Second World War and US farmers grew about a million acres of hemp as part of that program.
3) Hemp Seed is far more nutritious than even soybean, contains more essential fatty acids than any other source, is second only to soybeans in complete protein (but is more digestible by humans), is high in B-vitamins, and is 35% dietary fiber. Hemp seed is not psychoactive and cannot be used as a drug. See TestPledge.com (http://www.testpledge.com/)
4) The bark of the hemp stalk contains bast fibers which are among the Earth's longest natural soft fibers and are also rich in cellulose; the cellulose and hemi-cellulose in its inner woody core are called hurds. Hemp stalk is not psychoactive. Hemp fiber is longer, stronger, more absorbent and more insulative than cotton fiber.
5) According to the Department of Energy, hemp as a biomass fuel producer requires the least specialized growing and processing procedures of all hemp products. The hydrocarbons in hemp can be processed into a wide range of biomass energy sources, from fuel pellets to liquid fuels and gas. Development of biofuels could significantly reduce our consumption of fossil fuels and nuclear power.
6) Hemp grows well without herbicides, fungicides, or pesticides. Almost half of the agricultural chemicals used on US crops are applied to cotton.
7) Hemp produces more pulp per acre than timber on a sustainable basis, and can be used for every quality of paper. Hemp paper manufacturing can reduce wastewater contamination. Hemp's low lignin content reduces the need for acids used in pulping, and it's creamy color lends itself to environmentally friendly bleaching instead of harsh chlorine compounds. Less bleaching results in less dioxin and fewer chemical byproducts.
8) Hemp fiber paper resists decomposition, and does not yellow with age when an acid-free process is used. Hemp paper more than 1,500 years old has been found. It can also be recycled more times.
9) Hemp fiberboard produced by Washington State University was found to be twice as strong as wood-based fiberboard.
10) Eco-friendly hemp can replace most toxic petrochemical products. Research is being done to use hemp in manufacturing biodegradable plastic products: plant-based cellophane, recycled plastic mixed with hemp for injection-molded products, and resins made from the oil, to name just a very few examples.

TODAY'S HEMP INDUSTRY


AUSTRALIA - Tasmania research trials began in 1995. Victoria commercial production since1998. New South Wales has research. In 2002 Queensland began production.
AUSTRIA has a hemp industry including production of hempseed oil, medicinals and Hanf magazine.
CANADA started to license research crops in 1994 on an experimental basis. In addition to crops for fibre, one seed crop was experimentally licensed in 1995. Many acres were planted in 1997. Licenses for commercial agriculture saw thousands of acres planted in 1998. 30,000 acres planted in 1999. In 2000, due to speculative investing,12,250 acres were sown. In 2001 ninety-two farmers grew 3,250 acres. A number of Canadian farmers are now growing organically certified hemp crops.
CHILE has grown hemp in the recent past for seed oil production.
CHINA is the largest exporter of hemp paper and textiles. The fabrics are of excellent quality. (ma)
DENMARK planted its first modern hemp trials in 1997. Committed to utilizing organic methods.
FINLAND had a resurgence of hemp in 1995 with several small test plots. A seed variety for northern climates was developed: Finola, previously know by the breeder code 'FIN-314'. In 2003, Finola was accepted to the EU list of subsidized hemp cultivars. (hamppu)
FRANCE harvested 10,000 tons in 1994. France is the main source of low-thc producing hempseed. (chanvre)
GERMANY only banned hemp in 1982, but research began in 1992 and many technologies and products are being developed. Clothes and paper are being made from imported raw materials. Germany lifted the ban on growing hemp November, 1995. Mercedes and BMW use hemp fiber for composites. (hanf)
GREAT BRITAIN lifted hemp prohibition in 1993. Animal bedding, paper and textiles have been developed. A government grant was given to develop new markets for natural fibers. 4,000 acres were grown in 1994. Subsidies of $230 Eng. pounds per acre are given by the govt. for growing.
HUNGARY is rebuilding their hemp industry, and is one of the biggest exporters of hemp cordage, rugs and hemp fabric to the U.S. They also export hemp seed and hemp paper. Fiberboard is also made. (kender)
INDIA has large stands of naturalized Cannabis and uses it for cordage, textiles, and seed oil.
JAPAN has a religious tradition requiring the Emperor wear hemp garments, so there is a small plot maintained for the imperial family only. They have a thriving retail market selling a variety of hemp products. (asa)
NETHERLANDS is conducting a four year study to evaluate and test hemp for paper, and is developing processing equipment. Seed breeders are developing new strains of low-thc varieties. (hennep)
NEW ZEALAND started hemp trials in 2001. Various cultivars are being planted in the North and South.
POLAND currently grows hemp for fabric and cordage and manufactures hemp particle board. They have demonstrated the benefits of using hemp to cleanse soils contaminated by heavy metals. (konopij)
ROMANIA was the largest commercial producer of hemp in Europe in the late 80's and early 90's. Total acreage in 1993 was 40,000 acres. Some of it is exported to Hungary for processing. They also export to Western Europe and the United States. (cinepa)
RUSSIA maintains the largest hemp germ plasm collection in the world at the N.I. Vavilov Scientific Research Institute of Plant Industry (VIR) in Saint Petersburg. They are in need of funds. (konoplya)
SLOVENIA grows hemp and manufactures currency paper.
SPAIN grows and exports hemp pulp for paper and produces rope and textiles. (caņamo)
SWITZERLAND is a producer of hemp and hosts one of the largest hemp events: Cannatrade.
EGYPT, KOREA, PORTUGAL, THAILAND, and the UKRAINE also produce hemp.
USA - The United States granted the first hemp permit in over 40 years to Hawaii for an experimental quarter acre plot in 1999. The license has been renewed since. Importers and manufacturers have thrived using imported raw materials. Twenty-two states in the United States have introduced legislation. VT, HI, ND, MT, MN, IL, VA, NM, CA, AR, KY, MD, WV have passed legislation for support, research, or cultivation. The National Conference of State Legislators has endorsed industrial hemp for years.

Cheers
Sauman

Robert
18th August 2006, 12:16 AM
My wife loves to use hemp fabric nappies on our little one and swears by it. Highly absorbent, anti-fungal and anti-bacterial. She is nearly as passionate about modern cloth nappies (as opposed to disposable ones) as I am about biodiesel :p
Now, I just have to find a process to convert hemp wrapped baby poo to biodiesel....

Sauman
18th August 2006, 12:25 AM
If u have enough baby poo, then you can use the poo as compost,which in turn can be used as fertilizer,which in turn will act as organic nutrients for plants,which in turn produces oil,which then produces Bio Diesel.(Your passion taken care off).
With Johny boys baby boomer incentives on the table for talking......do I need to do the whole rant;) .....leave you to it legend.

Cheers
Sauman

Fuel'in Good
18th August 2006, 11:35 AM
Thanks Sauman, the info you have provided is great and extremely interesting. However, I still have the following question. Biofuel from Hemp? Is hemp a standout crop for production of bio fuel. Does the plant itself standout for ethanol production and is the seed oil a standout for biodiesel product (above soybean)? If the answer is yes, what data is there to support this?

cheers
Fuelin

Chris
18th August 2006, 01:19 PM
HI Folks
Just for Knowledge
HEMP FACTS


Sauman,
Do old hippies ever die? or is this a resurgence of the 60's movement
Just by the way there is a chap in SA that has been growing hemp for a few years now
He is feeding the seed produced to Cape Barren geese that he grows for the game market
He is known to have said that it provides these birds with the best nutrition that he has tried
Everything you posted in so far as the plant is concerned, is of course correct
The plant is widely grown in Greece as well for caged bird food on which these little guys as well as the larger ones thrive
As a bit of diversion, Herodotus the first travel writer refers to hemp seeds in his history as far back as 430 BC
He refers to Summerians heating flat stones on the ground within a tent, when the stones reach a certain temperature the seed of hemp where thrown upon the heated stones once the charcoal from the fire was removed
They then stood or sat around inhaling the fumes emanating from the seeds which of course gave them a "good feeling "
Herodotus suggests that they then acted in a similar fashion as the ancient Greeks did when they consumed wine to excess
Go figure
Yes there are varieties of hemp available here in Australia without the magic stuff in them, the Alkaloids which one can grow commercially
A note of warning though
It is a weed in some states, I think in QLD, and some parts of NSW, the end result of certain citizens throwing the seeds around the place ultimately going around some time later harvesting the plants so as to "hand them in" to the authorities
Go figure again
A good plant for biodiesel production nonetheless
Finally the best instruction book ever printed as to the cultivation of the
plant was put out by the USDA during the second world war, so as to assure the US navy of raw material for the manufacture of rope
The end result of the Japanese army having taken over most of the sources of hemp around the Pacific as well as the Indian ocean
It was available up until a few years ago for the sum of $3.00 US of course post paid
Now every one out there let us know when you are planting this marvel
you may have the wrong seeds
Some of us may be able to give you an unbiased opinion
Rope also has an interesting connection with the settlement of this country
Sir Joseph Banks the guy that Banksias are named after suggested to the British authorities that the load of convicts destined for the East coast of Africa a bit above the Cape colony should be send to Botany bay instead
The idea was that since most of the rope material used originated from Russia supplies for the British navy were doubtful as the Ruskies were at war with someone allied to the British
So the "first fleet" was ultimately diverted to Botany Bay and the first seeds ever planted in this country where Maize, Flax, another source of rope fibres as well as Hemp
It did not work so they decided to try another area
This was Norfolk Island where both plants thrived with favourable results relayed back to England
By that time the war with the Ruskies was over rope fibre supplies having been restored interest in both plants lessened somewhat but both where grown for local use
Flax or as commonly known as linseed is also a good oil producer
So here we are another bit of trivia for all interested in a bit of history
This of course is a forum for Biodiesel as well as renewable fuels, said who?
Cheers
Chris

Sauman
18th August 2006, 05:59 PM
[quote=Chris]Sauman,
Do old hippies ever die? said who?

A Hippe never dies,never ages >Just gets wiser<Timeless travel;)

Just for Info
Hemp's Demise


TimeEvent
8000 - 7000 B.C.




The earliest known woven fabric was made from wild hemp was carbon dated to this era. (Information obtained from Jack Herer's book The Emperor Wears No Clothes. 1995, pg. 2. Where he quotes The Columbia History of the World, 1981, pg. 54)
1000 B.C. - 1883 A.D.




Cannabis hemp was the world largest grown cash crop. It was used to make fabric, lighting oil, paper, incense, medicines, and food. (1) (http://www.artistictreasure.com/bibliography.html)
400 B. C.




Pipes wrapped in hemp cloth containing cannabis residue were discovered in the Great Lakes and Mississippi Valley buried with Hopewell Mound Builders. (1) (http://www.artistictreasure.com/bibliography.html)
1619 A. D.




In James town Colony, Virginia farmers were ordered by law to grow Indian Hemp. (1) (http://www.artistictreasure.com/bibliography.html)1631 A. D. - early 1800'sIn most colonies of America cannabis hemp was legal tender (money) through out this time period. You could even pay your taxes with hemp for over 200 years. (1) (http://www.artistictreasure.com/bibliography.html)
1631 A. D.




In Massachusetts farmers were ordered by law to grow Indian Hemp. (1) (http://www.artistictreasure.com/bibliography.html)
1632 A. D.




In Connecticut farmers were ordered by law to grow Indian Hemp. (1) (http://www.artistictreasure.com/bibliography.html)
1763 - 1767 A. D.




In Virginia you could be jailed, if you were a farmer, for not growing hemp during times of shortage. (1) (http://www.artistictreasure.com/bibliography.html)
1890 A. D.


In 1824, domestic hemp was pitted against Russian hemp by rigging the USS Constitution on one side with American and the other with Russian grown hemp, 'and after being thus worn for nearly a year, it was found, on examination, that the Russian rope, in every instance, after being much worn, looked better and wore more equally and evenly than the American.' But the commander said, 'the difference between them was not so great as to warrant a declaration that the proof was conclusive in favor of the Russian....'"


Dodge, C. A. 1896. A report on the culture of hemp and jute in the United States. USDA Office of Fiber Investigations. Report No. 8. p.15.
1850 A. D.


The U.S. census counted 8,327 hemp plantations that had at least 2000 acres of


land or more. (1) (http://www.artistictreasure.com/bibliography.html)
1896 A. D.


Several [varieties of hemp] are grown in this country, that cultivated in Kentucky and having a hollow stem, being the most common. China hemp, with slender stems, growing very erect, has a wide range of culture. Smyrna hemp is adapted to cultivation over a still wider range and Japanese hemp is beginning to be cultivated, particularly in California, where it reaches a height of 15 feet. Russian and Italian seed have been experimented with, but the former produces a short stalk, while the latter only grows to a medium height. A small quantity of Piedmontese hemp seed from Italy was distributed by the Department in 1893, having been received through the Chicago Exposition...."


Dodge, C. A. 1896. A report on the culture of hemp and jute in the United States. USDA Office of Fiber Investigations. Report No. 8. p.7.
1842-1896 A. D.


A variety of marijuana and hashish extracts were the first, second, and third most


prescribed medicines in the United States. (1) (http://www.artistictreasure.com/bibliography.html)
1891 A. D.


W. H. Holmes an ethnologist for the Smithsonian Institute recovers a large piece of
hemp fabric buried with a man at an archeological dig in Morgan County,


Tennessee. (2) (http://www.artistictreasure.com/bibliography.html)
1902 A. D.


"In Nebraska, where the [hemp] industry is being established, a new and important step has been taken in cutting the crop with an ordinary mowing machine. A simple attachment which bends the stalks over in the direction in which the machine is going facilitates the cutting... The cost of cutting hemp in this manner is 50 cents per acre, as compared with $3 to $4 per acre, the rates paid for cutting by hand in Kentucky."

This is the first Installment
Cheers
Sauman

Sauman
18th August 2006, 06:39 PM
Time
Event


1905 A. D.
"The most important fact to be recorded in connection with the hemp industry during the past year is the successful operation of a machine brake in the fields of Kentucky. This machine breaks the retted stalks and cleans the fiber, producing clean, straight fiber equal to the best grades prepared on hand brakes, and it has a capacity of 1000 pounds or more of clean fiber per hour. So far as we have any record, this is the first machine having sufficient capacity to be commercially practical that has cleaned bast fiber in an entirely satisfactory manner."
USDA (http://www.artistictreasure.com/glossary.html). 1905 Report of Office of Fiber Investigations. Bureau of Plant Industry. p. 145.


1917 A. D.
"The crop of hempseed last fall, estimated at about 45,000 bushels, is the largest produced in the United States since 1859. A very large proportion of it was from improved strains developed by this bureau in the hempseed selection plats at Arlington and Yarrow Farms."
USDA (http://www.artistictreasure.com/glossary.html). Bureau of Plant Industry. 1917. Report of the Chief. p. 12.


1918 A. D.
"Early maturing varieties, chiefly of Italian origin, are being grown at Madison, Wisconsin, in cooperation with the Wisconsin Agricultural Experiment Station. This is the third year of selection for some varieties, and the results give promise of the successful production in that State of seed of hemp fully equal to the Ferrara of northern Italy." USDA (http://www.artistictreasure.com/glossary.html). Bureau of Plant Industry. 1918. Report of the Chief. p. 28.


1918 A. D.
"When the work with hemp was begun in Wisconsin, there were no satisfactory machines for harvesting, spreading, binding, or breaking. All of these processes were performed by hand. Due to such methods, the hemp industry in the United States had all but disappeared. As it was realized from the very beginning of the work in Wisconsin that no permanent progress could be made so long as it was necessary to depend upon hand labor, immediate attention was given to solving the problem of power machinery. Nearly every kind of hemp machine was studied and tested. The obstacles were great, but through the cooperation of experienced hemp men and one large harvesting machinery company, this problem has been nearly solved. The hemp crop can now be handled entirely by machinery."
Wright, Andrew. 1918. Wisconsin's Hemp Industry. Wisconsin Agricultural Experiment Station Bulletin # 293. p.5.


1920 A. D.
"The work of breeding improved strains of hemp is being continued at Arlington Farm, Va., and all previous records were broken in the selection plats of 1919. The three best strains, Kymington, Chington and Tochimington, averaged, respectively, 14 feet 11 inches, 15 feet 5 inches, and 15 feet 9 inches, while the tallest individual plant was 19 feet. The improvement by selection is shown not alone in increased height but also in longer internodes, yielding fiber of better quality and increased quantity."
USDA (http://www.artistictreasure.com/glossary.html). Bureau of Plant Industry. 1920. Report of the Chief. p. 26.


1921 A. D.
"The organized hemp growers of Wisconsin, working in cooperation with the field agent of fiber investigations [Andrew Wright], have so improved the quality and standardized the grades of hemp fiber produced there that it has found a market even in dull times. The hemp acreage in that State has been kept up, although there has been a reduction in every other hemp-producing area throughout the world."
USDA (http://www.artistictreasure.com/glossary.html). 1921. Annual Report of the Department of Agriculture: Hemp. p. 46.


1929 A. D.
"In 1929 three selected varieties of hemp (Michigan Early, Chinamington and Simple Leaf) were grown in comparison with unselected common Kentucky seed near Juneau, Wis. Each of the varieties had been developed by 10 years or more of selection from the progeny of individual plants. The yields of fiber per acre were as follows: Simple Leaf, 360 pounds; Michigan Early, 694 pounds; Chinamington, 1054 pounds; common Kentucky, 680 pounds."
USDA. 1929. Bureau of Plant Industry, Annual Report. p. 27.


1935 A. D.
"The hemp breeding work, carried on by the Bureau for more than 20 years, was discontinued in 1933, but practical results are still evident in commercial fields. A hemp grower in Kentucky reported a yield of 1750 pounds per acre of clean, dew-retted fiber from 100 acres of the pedigreed variety Chinamington grown in 1934. This is more than twice the average yield obtained from ordinary unselected hemp seed."
USDA. 1935. Annual Reports of the Department of Agriculture, p.6.


1942 A. D.
The Japanese invade the Philippine's and cut off our Manila (Abaca) hemp supply. (1) (http://www.artistictreasure.com/bibliography.html)


1942 A. D.
The U. S. government distributes 400,000 lb.. (pounds) of cannabis hemp seed to American farmers from Wisconsin to Kentucky. (1) (http://www.artistictreasure.com/bibliography.html)


1942-1946 A. D.
American farmers produced 42,000 tons of hemp fiber per year. (1) (http://www.artistictreasure.com/bibliography.html)
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Second and last
Cheers
Sauman

darren leonadas
21st August 2006, 12:10 PM
WoW, there's alot of pro thought here about hemp. So I just gotta throw in my 2 bobs worth.

Queen Elizabeth the first passed a law that one tenth of all farmland MUST be cultivated with Hemp, So to supply her demanding Navy with rope and sailcloth. Failure to grow hemp would result in the forfeiture of your land.

Hemp grown for intoxication (drugs) and hemp grown for fibre and textiles aren't that much different, the difference is HOw it is SOWN. Hemp grown for drugs needs at least 1/2 a square metre per plant so as to spread out its limbs and produce seedless heads, and must be all female plants. Hemp grown for fibre and oil, must be densely sown at one plant per square centimeter, and be of both sexes, which results in A thousand highly competitive plants per square metre of land, growing up to three metres tall in one season, (hemp can be cultivated to have 2 seasons a year this way) This results in one of the highest Carbon Sinks known to man, better than sugar cane. Each plant will produce just one head, 1000 per SQ. metre, which is heavily seeded with fertile seeds. Useless to smoke as a drug.

Hemp seeds produce more oil per volume than most other oil seed crops. One square metre of Hemp grown in this method can consume in six months the same amount of CO2 from the environment, as one square metre of old growth rainforest does over ten years.

As poultry feed hemp seed has more fats and protein than most other stock feed. The Nederlands has a loop hole in the cultivation of hemp because hemp seed is promoted there as the highest quality Chicken feed.

The Dupont Corporation lobbied the US Government to ban hemp in the nineteen twenties, and also invested in a number of scare campagne films, now viewed with great humour, And at the same time had just discovered and patented how to make fabric from Fossil Oil. Rayon and Nylon. Hemp Fabric for clothing is also known as Vegetable Rayon.

Hydroponic Hemp grown for drugs is the most genetically modified crop on earth. Hydroponic hemp grown for drugs under lights has more embodied energy from fossil fuels than Gold or Titanium.
Hemp grown naturally in the sun and earth is a class C drug.
"Hydro" is a class A drug which is proven to lend itself to mental sickness.

darren leonadas
21st August 2006, 12:20 PM
My wife loves to use hemp fabric nappies on our little one and swears by it. Highly absorbent, anti-fungal and anti-bacterial. She is nearly as passionate about modern cloth nappies (as opposed to disposable ones) as I am about biodiesel :p
Now, I just have to find a process to convert hemp wrapped baby poo to biodiesel....
Bury them in the garden and grow an oil crop ontop of them!

Chris
21st August 2006, 06:47 PM
WoW, there's alot of pro thought here about hemp. So I just gotta throw in my 2 bobs worth.
Hemp seeds produce more oil per volume than most other oil seed crops. Hemp grown naturally in the sun and earth is a class C drug.
"Hydro" is a class A drug which is proven to lend itself to mental sickness.
Darren
I have 120 acres of irrigated land, as well as all of the necessary implements as well as tractors
How would they run on Hemp oil Biodiesel?
Would they be able to keep a straight line?
When are we starting mate?
I will leave the plant density as well as the variety up to you
I will just be the farmer
Awaiting your input
Cheers
Chris

Sauman
22nd August 2006, 10:39 PM
Darren
I have 120 acres of irrigated land, as well as all of the necessary implements as well as tractors
How would they run on Hemp oil Biodiesel? >>Just sweet and cruisy.;) ;) ;)
Would they be able to keep a straight line?>>>Going by world wide studies drivers, under the influence of hemp are much less prone to accidents then those on alcohol.So I think dynamics will follow the humans who designed them.Even if they miss a beat or too....we should be allright.Maybe a tad bit slow and dopey...thats all.

When are we starting mate?>>>Am back home soon.I put up my hands to volunteer.

I will leave the plant density as well as the variety up to you
I will just be the farmer>>> and a bit more if I can get away with it.Like say quality controlling the plants;) ;) ;) .Both on man and machine.
Awaiting your input>>>hanging out for it:p
Cheers
Chris
Smiles and shines
Cheers
Sauman

emjay
30th October 2008, 04:32 PM
Hey, lol, but seriously....

I heard the guy who invented the Diesel engine ("Diesel" I think his name was) had cannabis seed oil in mind for the fuel. Any truth to that?

I also heard that seed mass makes up 50% of a female Cannabis plant grown for seed.... and that the Cannabis seed is one of the world's greatest natural sources of nutrition.... and that it cures cancer (I'm going to grow a couple lbs. and test that one myself.)

Tony From West Oz
30th October 2008, 10:22 PM
MJ,
What you heard about Rudolph diesel is not true, just as the statement that he made the engine to run on vegetable oil.
the following is and extract from the Foreword (by Rudolph diesel) to

DIESEL ENGINES
FOR
LAND AND MARINE WORK

By A. P. CHALKLEY

B.Sc. (LOND.), A.M. INST.C.E., A.I.E.E.

WITH AN INTRODUCTORY CHAPTER BY

D.R. RUDOLF DIESEL



... it is not yet generally known that it is possible to use animal and vegetable oils direct in Diesel motors. In 1900 a small Diesel engine was exhibited at the Paris exhibition by the Otto Company which, on the suggestion of the French Government, was run on Arachide oil, and operated so well that very few people were aware of the fact. The motor was built for ordinary oils, and without any modification was run on vegetable oil. I have recently repeated these experiments on a large scale with full success and entire confirmation of the results formerly obtained. The French Government had in mind the utilization of the large quantities of arachide or ground nuts available in the African colonies and easy to cultivate, for, by this means, the colonies can be provided with power and industries, without the necessity of importing coal or liquid fuel.

TroyH
30th October 2008, 10:38 PM
I think hemp has massive potential, but despite all the comments to the contrary here, the most recent information I read (a few weeks ago. I forget where) suggested that all varieties of hemp plants, and all hemp products were illicit in Australia, because the legislation did not distinguish between THC containing plants, and plants with negligible THC.

Am I just reading outdated info? lol

Darren Leonadas - are you certain about the only difference being how it is sown? I'm quite certain that there are industrial hemp varieties that produce very little (almost no) THC, but I would be very surprised if how you sow a plant could reduce THC levels enough to make it not useable in any form as a drug, without also compromising on the yield of hemp.

Could be wrong, just sounds a bit odd to me.

Fitian
31st October 2008, 07:22 AM
From Wikipedia

Mercedes-Benz uses a biocomposite composed principally of hemp fiber for the manufacture of interior panels in some of its automobiles.

That explains why I am feeling high :D