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| A new diesel biofuel from sugarcane Brazil launches sugarcane biofuel April 24, 2008 - 10:10AM Source: ABC A new diesel biofuel derived from sugarcane is to be launched in Brazil after an accidental discovery made while researching malaria cures, the US and Brazilian companies producing it has announced. John Melo, the head of US biotech firm Amyris, explained that one of his bio-engineers stumbled on the process while working on the Artemisia anti-malaria medicine. Although the technology could make a variety of fuels, Amyris decided to make diesel with Brazilian partner Crustalsev because of demand for that product was "two to three times higher than for petrol." He asked that the sugarcane diesel not be called "biodiesel" because that term is already applied to a fuel made from grains containing oil. The two companies are to initially invest $10.55 million to install offices in Sao Paulo and build a factory that will experiment with the new fuel. - AFP |
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| Re: A new diesel biofuel from sugarcane Quote:
developers are starting to snap up the best parts. So The farmers take the compo from the government to get out of the industry with the recent restructuring and then sell their land to the developers. 7.30 report had a piece some time ago on a bloke who had converted his car to natural from mains supply. was only able to cover a short distance from memory. I believe Gosford council had converted there utes and light trucks to run on natural gas so there must be kits out there but at what price. |
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| Re: A new diesel biofuel from sugarcane Sugarcane is actually superior to grain for ethanol. It has a positive EROEI (unlike wheat). I was in touch with the Brazilian Consulate General's office over some matters and we discussed the absurd situation in Oz. They could not believe the STUPIDITY they kept running into. Here they were trying to assist the Australians to develope an industry and all they ran into was fools. They had spent decades developing their industry and technology, they had worked through their failures and could now pass on their success. This was during the time that the ethanol 'beat-up' was in full swing, you know, the junk science campaign that the Labor Party (the present seat warmers in Government) was orchestrating. The Brazilians were using Australian Holdens in Brazil on ethanol, yet there was a campaign in Australia about ethanol destroying engines. And now we have those same Labor pollies directing traffic in Canberra - we are so doomed. |
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| Re: A new diesel biofuel from sugarcane Terry i would rather no beat up of either of our democratically elected parties here Cheers Nick.
__________________ Cheers Nick. Roidio 2001 Holden Rodeo 4x4 2.8L TD. 2.5" Straight through exhaust sytem, heat exchanger shower system. 2" Body Lift, And lots of fruit, B100 for 25,000 no problems. Elsa 1983 Mercedes-Benz W123 300D. The Fastest Merc in Oz, Loving B100 Burgers |
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| Re: A new diesel biofuel from sugarcane Quote:
Someone give me their address please so I can ask them to come experiment with my algae.
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| Re: A new diesel biofuel from sugarcane check out Advanced Fuels Technology - Home , they convert petrol cars to duel fuel petrol / CNG. They also sell a home fueling natural gas bowser for $5,500. Unfortunatley, no rebates from fed govt. considering we sell our natural gas to China for 0.5 cents per litre, this is truly a crime. We have 500 years supply of natural gas in Australia. Its carbon emissions are far, far less than petrol and LPG. we own the solution to Peak Oil (for Australia) and yet the powers-that-be are naturally not doing anything about it. it makes me sick. |
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I don't think corn ethanol is superior to anything (except perhaps fossil fuels) Quote:
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Fossil fuels can not be our only source of energy forever. Have some consideration for future generations.
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| Re: A new diesel biofuel from sugarcane When making alcohol from corn. For every one unit of power put in you get 1 unit out. A 1:1 conversion rate which is renewable but unviable, un economic, un ethicl, unsustainable.... Just about un everything. When using sugar cane for every 1 unit in, you get 8 out. A conversion rate of 8:1. Which is renewable, sustainable, economically viable etc.etc .... every thing that corn isn't .......... The only way the corn to alcohol industry survives in the USA is government subsidies & grants. The corn growers are laughing .... as are the rich pigs getting the grants & subsidies. If every sewerage plant had an Algy farm attached to it we would have more oil than you can poke a stick at. |
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| Re: A new diesel biofuel from sugarcane Still off topic, but power stations have plenty of CO2 & waste heat to permit algae growing & processing. I think this project will be using the bagasse to produce producer gas which can be processed into long chain molecules, suitable for use as diesel fuel (possibly using the Fischer - Tropsch proces) Tony |
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