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    B100 in 1990 Toyota Hilux LN106

    Good morning everyone,

    I have been running my Hilux on a ATG conversion kit for about 25000km now, recently I got my hands on a fair bit of oil and a bio processor,

    talking to a few diesel specialists around the area, they all say bio is no good (as to be expected ) one says the rotary pump will stuff up, the next one says the engine is not build for it, and the third reckons he fixes them all the time, but none of them could tell me exactly whats not working with it.

    In Tony's stickie are a few Hiluxes listed, and done a few k's on it,
    so I would appreciate any help in this matter,
    also is there anything else to watch out for other than replace fuel lines and install extra filter?

    Thanks heaps,

    have a great day

    Jens
    1990 Toyota Hilux LN106 with ATG 2 tank system (sold after running 150.000 ks on mainly WVO)

    1993 Toyota 75 Series with 1 HDT conversion, 75l factory tank and a custom 170l under tray tank. (Retired with 680.000ks on the clock mostly running on BIO and on WVO)

    2006 Landcruiser Troopcarrier 1HZ with DTS Turbo Kit, 170ltr long range tank currently not converted, running on B100

    "him who never made a mistake, made no discovery either"

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  • #2
    Re: B100 in 1990 Toyota Hilux LN106

    If making biodiesel, there is a fair bit of information on the process ansd the post treatment of the biodiesel.
    a few schools of thought
    1. Wash the biodiesel with water until pH of water is same as water source, dry the biodiesel with bubbler and time (warmth also helps).
    2. Bubble air thru the biodiesel to remove residual methanol and alow to sit, waiting for the soaps to drop out of solution.
    3. Just allow the biodiesel to settle for a month or more (the longer, the better, some say) and decant the biodiesel for use from the top of the storage container.


    Whatever works best for you.
    #1 is most labour intensive and has highest cost (water & power for bubbler)
    #2 is less labour intensive but still has cost (power for bubbler)
    #3 Is a zero cost option, but means you need to have at least 4 weeks of biodiesel in storage at any time. If you have limited storage, this may be the most costly option.

    Many start by washing & drying, then progress thru the other steps as they build up a stock of biodiesel.
    Regards,
    Tony
    Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.

    Current Vehicles in stable:
    '06 Musso Sports 4X4 Manual Crew Cab tray back.
    '04 Rexton 4X4 Automatic SUV
    '2014 Toyota Prius (on ULP) - Wife's car

    Previous Vehicles:
    '90 Mazda Capella. (2000 - 2003) My first Fatmobile. Converted to fun on veggie oil with a 2 tank setup.
    '80 Mercedes 300D. 2 tank conversion [Sold]
    '84 Mercedes 300D. 1 tank, no conversion. Replaced engine with rebuilt OM617A turbodiesel engine. Finally had good power. Engine donor for W123 coupe. (body parted out and carcass sold for scrap.)
    '85 Mercedes Benz W123 300CD Turbodiesel
    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab well body. [Head gasket blew!]
    '04 Rexton SUV 2.9L Turbodiesel same as Musso - Our Family car.
    '06 Musso sports Crew Cab Trayback - My hack (no air cond, no heater).

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    • #3
      Re: B100 in 1990 Toyota Hilux LN106

      As far as the Hilux, it should not be a problem, provided you use properly made and finished biodiesel. I know of a 1993 Hilux running B100 without problems, for over a year so far.

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      • #4
        Re: B100 in 1990 Toyota Hilux LN106

        It will be fine, only issue will be the longer use and the seals in the injection pump. Given the age they will be the older ruber but they will go either way on bio or not. Its only a matter of time with ULSD.

        Tank gunk and filters, use a CAv with an adapter unless you get OEM filters cheaply.

        It will be better for it as the mechanical pump will stop just about any wear running on B100, I know it will from personal experience.
        Biodiesel Bandit

        Landcruiser '98 80 series B100.

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        • #5
          Re: B100 in 1990 Toyota Hilux LN106

          Originally posted by Matt View Post
          It will be fine, only issue will be the longer use and the seals in the injection pump. Given the age they will be the older ruber but they will go either way on bio or not. Its only a matter of time with ULSD.

          Tank gunk and filters, use a CAv with an adapter unless you get OEM filters cheaply.

          It will be better for it as the mechanical pump will stop just about any wear running on B100, I know it will from personal experience.
          Thanks for that, the injector pump has been replaced just after I bought the car, that was the reason why I got it for a fair price, so that should be alright then

          Thanks everyone for your input !!!

          have a great week!!!

          regards Jens
          1990 Toyota Hilux LN106 with ATG 2 tank system (sold after running 150.000 ks on mainly WVO)

          1993 Toyota 75 Series with 1 HDT conversion, 75l factory tank and a custom 170l under tray tank. (Retired with 680.000ks on the clock mostly running on BIO and on WVO)

          2006 Landcruiser Troopcarrier 1HZ with DTS Turbo Kit, 170ltr long range tank currently not converted, running on B100

          "him who never made a mistake, made no discovery either"

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          • #6
            Re: B100 in 1990 Toyota Hilux LN106

            I run b100 in my 2004 lux (1kz-te engine) have done for about 50000k's only problems i've had is economy drops off a little in winter... but i'm in tas and its cold!! and IP has an annoying "tick" over 2000rpm... change the oil and filters every 5000 and you shoudn't have a problem, its a toyota and you couldn't kill it with an axe!!
            tas farm boy
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            Last edited by tas farm boy; 30 September 2011, 08:23 PM. Reason: spelling

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            • #7
              Re: B100 in 1990 Toyota Hilux LN106

              Is the 2004 model common rail? My son is looking at one of these and says he wants a 2005 plus to get the current looks, I advised if going to use B100 then get mechanical. Hence the question.
              Biodiesel Bandit

              Landcruiser '98 80 series B100.

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              • #8
                Re: B100 in 1990 Toyota Hilux LN106

                Originally posted by Matt View Post
                Is the 2004 model common rail? My son is looking at one of these and says he wants a 2005 plus to get the current looks, I advised if going to use B100 then get mechanical. Hence the question.

                No not common rail but has an electronic fuel pump... 2005 are common rail i think but dont quote me on that.

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                • #9
                  Re: B100 in 1990 Toyota Hilux LN106

                  Hi Jen,
                  A bit of a lat reply but anyway,
                  I ran my 1995 Hilux on 100% Bio for years and I can't remember how many 10s of thousands of KM.
                  Key points.
                  • Pre - 1995 toyotas (I believe) might still have rubber hoses and fuel pump seals. These get softened by Biodiesel. By now the fuel pump probably has been rebuilt and the new seals might be nitrile rubber but you never know. Using bio in a fuel pump with rubber seals could cause pump failure. The fuel lines might go soft after a while if they are original
                  • You need good quality bio - clean, well washed and dried, and preferably made from vege oil only
                  • the first tank or so will dissolve tar residues from your tank causing the fuel filter to block. Learn how to change a fuel filter and carry a spare or there are other tricks.
                  • Make sure the glow plugs are all working - my ute had some trouble with cold starts in winter until I checked and found non of the glow-plugs worked any more. New glow plugs - no problems.
                  • most diesel is heavily cut with kerosene ('winterised') in cold climates during winter. Before I got new glow plugs I used to do this to my Bio using kerosene or unleaded at about 10%.

                  So check out those things.
                  Currently running a 1995 Landcruiser on 100% BD
                  All the best
                  John

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                  • #10
                    Re: B100 in 1990 Toyota Hilux LN106

                    Jens

                    What great luck. And just before christmas [PHP].
                    Post some pictures and we can have a look. That way you'll get some ideas on how best to use.
                    You've seen my old red jeep and it runs great on b100 so jump straight in.

                    The best thing I bought was the fish tank bubbler , just a cheepy and a plastic attachment bubbler not the glued together things that break down in the bio.
                    To explain , I'll post a pick tonight so you'll understand. The fish tank bubbler really made a difference to my end product in drying times.

                    Hopefully we will see you in Feb running b100 at Bills place.

                    Michael
                    97 Jeep XJ Cherokee on B100. 0 km's on B100 and counting !!!! (Sold)
                    2002 Merc ML270 now on B100. (Sold)
                    2006 Ssangyong Musso 2.9 t idi (Sold)
                    2015 NP300 Navara ( Sold )
                    2018 NP300 Navara ( B5 )

                    Stainless processor with blue water pump.
                    Tetragonula Hockingsi

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                    • #11
                      Re: B100 in 1990 Toyota Hilux LN106

                      Jens,

                      If you want to save the hassle of making BIO you could just run the car on a blend. I do this with my 93 surf - which has the 1kzt-e motor in it.

                      Have not had any problems with the pump or motor on blends

                      Varying the blend by season to keep the viscosity down

                      Craig
                      Holden Suburban K2500 1998 6.5L Turbo GM engine
                      210,000KMs (90,000 on new crate motor)

                      Currently 2 tanks in and working - 90 litre BIO tank and main tank of 160L WVO

                      30 plate FPHE in Engine bay and Helton Dual coil in rear
                      Walbro FRB-5 pusher pumps x 2

                      50,000KM on Veg and 10,000Km on B100

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