Re: Converting a 'new' vehicle to use vegetable oil

Hi Tony,

That was me! Thank you : )

I am trying to buy a car (in melbourne) for work- I am a chippy so after a ute and am finding it quite tedious when asking the above questions as people don't generally know.

Would you advise a non turbo engine for a newbie?
I am looking at this car http://www.melbournecarsupermarket.c...ssis/12755041/

the very annoying sales person sent me this photo when i asked about the above criteria. Is it even possible to answer the above questions from this picture?

I am finding people are just trying to answer what they think i want to hear... and I am not convinced that anyone knows what they are talking about : /

I am keen to get to the bottom of this though as my last darling veggie car died very recently and keen to get back on to the golden stuff!

Re: Converting a 'new' vehicle to use vegetable oil

The Courier should be OK with veg, they have a rotary pump. The price is a bit steep 8k for a 15 year old 300,000 km vehicle, I think you could do much better. FYI that model Courier, and Mazda were pron to cracking heads.
Have you considered one of these https://www.carsales.com.au/car/ssangyong/musso/

They are a copy of a merc and a way better than a mazda, and there is one there thats only done 89k for the about the same money as the courier

Re: Converting a 'new' vehicle to use vegetable oil

Hi,

Thanks for the above information : ) I have never heard of Ssangyong... Thanks for the tip i will look into it. Yeah I felt like the above was too expensive also was hoping to barter them down. There are not a lot of cars available in mebourne which are meeting my criteria at the moment.

Thanks again!

Re: Converting a 'new' vehicle to use vegetable oil

Landcruiser or Hilux - both tried and tested and thrive on veggie oil.
Mussos (Ssangyong) are OK so long as you dont do a head gasket (which I think they will all do with some "work")

Re: Converting a 'new' vehicle to use vegetable oil

They are not pretty but the Musso Sports dual cab 04-06 (as distinct from the earlier wagons) is ideal for running on waste vege oil (WVO).
The fact that most people like you, aren't familiar with them and that Ssangyong have had terrible after sales service means that they have low resale values and can be bought cheaply $6K-$9k.
They run well as they match the favourable criteria listed by Tony above and don't need a two tank system to do so.
I now have around 160K out of 215K total running on reconditioned waste veg oil simply blended with normal diesel with the addition of a couple of easily installed extra fuel filters.
In summer when the higher ambient temps make the WVO thinner you can use around 75% WVO with 25% diesel. In winter, less WVO and more diesel. They use around 10lt/100km even when loaded up.
Smaller ute tub as a result of full size rear seat comparment.
Using WVO isn't money for jam though! WVO collection, cleaning, empty drum disposal, all occupy space, time, effort and are often messy. Additionally you have more frequent fuel filter and I would argue engine oil changes.
Operating a vehicle on a waste product does put a smile on your face though despite the negatives. (but not when you have just spilled a 20 lt drum of WVO all over the place.
Laurie

Re: Converting a 'new' vehicle to use vegetable oil

Of course the Musso is pretty!!!
I love my musso.

The earlier musso wagon, if it has the diesel engine, is the same diesel as the one used in the Dual cab minus the turbo so is also suitable for using with SVO.
I have had one of each.
The diesel wagon is defiantly under-powered by today's standards

Re: Converting a 'new' vehicle to use vegetable oil

Ha. yes laurie- The stories i have of oil going everywhere haha!

I am pretty set on a toyota hilux- am very close to purchasing this - if i can get it down to 5.000 ish- https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/carr...sel/1146861766

Does anyone have experience with turbos and veg? I would want to run this twin tank like my old 4 runner.

Anj

Re: Converting a 'new' vehicle to use vegetable oil

Turbos supply air - nothing to do with the fuel system.
Therefore no problems with WVO and Turbocharged engines (due to the turbo at least)