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| Mercedes 300D conversion
Hello everyone, This my first post here in this great forums. I'd like to share with you the steps of the conversion a mercedes 300D 1981. The whole idea started when I joined the OZBENZ forums where I met Tony and Bruce. They have offered to be at help for not only me but anyone wanting to become a SVO used. I bought the following parts for the conversion ... 20 Plate Heat exchanger -eBay/Tony. CAV filter - eBay. Pollak fuel valve eBay. Brackets, aluminium angle and bolts - Bunnings warehouse. Blumbing fittings - ENZED Still more but not much to buy Here is a photo of things so far. This is a close up on how the heat exchanger looks with the fittings in the right locations. Regards, Fitian Last edited by Fitian; 22nd October 2008 at 09:25 PM. |
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It is amazing how different the cars are from my 78 to your 81. You have put stuff where my car came with stuff (like self leveling suspension resivour) and I put stuff where you have a black box. Are you goin to put the lift pump after the filters and fuel selector (Bruce style) or before the selector (and use 2 fuel pumps, Tony style)? I have done extra fuel pump and before the selector, but found the new pump would not pump veg oil, so used it for diesel. And if you use the original tank for veg oil, I found I could get the filters to last longer i I used 2 one on the original fuel feed line, and one on the (original return) line and used that to feed as well, both into a T fitting. By using 2 in paralell they can get a lot more blocked and still feed enough oil to keep the car going at 110.
__________________ cheers Chris. 1990 landcruiser 80, 1HD-T two tank, copper pipe HE+ 20 plate FPHE, toyota solenoids and filters. 1978 300D, elsbett one tank system. 1979 300D veg oil/ diesel blend for now. |
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Hi Chris, Quote:
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If you used the original tank for veg oil, did you change the fuel line to a larger diameter to take it to the HE or how did you do it? Have you got a thread with your car conversion to learn from you please. Cheers Fitian |
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I did use the original tank, but used garden hose for the fuel line. which I would not reccomend, andI should have heated it with nylon from the start. I havent a thread yet, bt will get onto it! It is exceptionaly similar to Tony's on this site, Probably the last thread on this site. I have wondered about changing the system to pump after, which would allow a blend of startup fuel, as the pump cant even pump veg oil/ diesel mix at 50/50.
__________________ cheers Chris. 1990 landcruiser 80, 1HD-T two tank, copper pipe HE+ 20 plate FPHE, toyota solenoids and filters. 1978 300D, elsbett one tank system. 1979 300D veg oil/ diesel blend for now. |
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I need some advise on how to run the vegy oil hose from the back of the car to the engine. Is there a ready made holes for the hose to run through or do I have to drill a hole? Where is the best place? Also I am not that good with connecting all the hoses between the Pollak valve and the engine. Any help would be highly appreciated. Thanks Fitian Last edited by Fitian; 9th October 2006 at 03:51 PM. |
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Thanks Tony, When I tried to get the new fuel hose through to the boot of the car, I faced this one problem which is the right place to run it through. Going by your first photo it shows the hose going up but I could not tell to where? Did you have to drill a hole or did you run it through the drain holes under the spare wheel? Also the other end at the engine - Your photos do not show. The reason I asked is because I do not want the hose to be either squeezed at the boot or over heated at the engine. I have finish connecting the coolant cycle. But I do not know how to connect the hoses to the Pollak valve. There are many hoses going in nd comming out of the diesel fuel filter and I am not sure how to do it. You also advised Bruce to block the banjo bolt - not sure what or where is it. Do you think you can fix me up with this? I'd really like to sort this on the week end. Thanks Tony. Cheers |
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| Re: Mercedes 300D conversion
Here is the image for in the engine bay: ![]() At the boot end, I drilled a hole in the wheel well (behind the passenger side rear wheel), so that the fuel hose passed thru this hole, above the muffler heat shield. Have a look under the car and you will see how I routed the hose from there between the rear subframe and the rear 'swing arm'. What connection configuration were you considering? Feeding the individual fuels thru the Pollak valve prior to the fuel pump and the return lines thru the Pollak also, sharing the fuel pump and main diesel fuel filter for diesel and veggie oil? or; Reconfiguring the diesel filter to before the Pollak so the fuels do not share this filter, but share the fuel pump. In this case, the hoses which connect together on top of the stock fuel filter need to be isolated from the diesel fuel filter. There is a cxircular firring, bolted to the top of the diesel filter housing. undo thisbolt and you will find that it is hollow, allowing fuel to pass thru a small hole in the housing, to the return lines. In the reconfigured location, this will either cause unfiltered oil to be sucked from the diesel tank thru the return line or for the returning vegetable oil to pass to the diesel tank. This is why I recommended that the Banjo Bolt (the circular fitting resembles the sounding box on a Banjo) which is hollow would need to be either replaced with a solid bolt of the same thread pitch, or epoxied up to prevent fuel flow. If you can draw a diagram of it, you could make it easier to connect the hoses to the correct places. I have drawn up several versions of conversion diagrams at this thread You may be able to adapt onte of them, using MS Paint or a similar drawing package. Tony |
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Thanks Tony for explaining how to run the oil hose. I'll work on it on the week end. Quote:
With this config. do you think the original fuelp pump will cope or will I need an extra fuel pump? I know Bruce says it is working for him but what do you recommend? In regards to sharing the fuel filter ... will that be too much for the filter? The oil will be filter to 5 micron and will me hot comming from the HE. what you think? Which configuration you think is best for the car Tony? I look forwards to your reply. Big thanks Fitian |
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