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    1999 W202 Mercedes C250 Turbodiesel for sale

    My wife has decided to buy a Toyota Camry, just like her friend's car.
    So, her C250 is up for sale.
    Message me on this forum or thru Gumtree if you would like specific photos or to answer your questions.

    http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bedfordale/cars-vans-utes/1999-mercedes-benz-c250-sedan/1131967274?posted=true


    Tony
    Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.

    Current Vehicles in stable:
    '85 Mercedes Benz W123 300CD Turbodiesel single tank using 95% used cooking oil and 5% to 10% misfuel (where someone had filled diesel vehicle with petrol).
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab. Running on used cooking oil with 5% to 10% misfuel.
    Toyota Camry Hybrid - (Wife's Car)

    Previous Vehicles:
    '90 Mazda Capella. (2000 - 2003) My first Fatmobile. Converted to fun on veggie oil with a 2 tank setup. Died when supercharger stuck at max boost for weeks. Stretched head bolts.
    '80 Mercedes 300D. 2 tank conversion [Sold]
    '84 Mercedes 300D. 1 tank, no conversion. Replaced engine with rebuilt OM617A turbodiesel engine. Finally had good power. Donor for current Fatmobile coupe. (body parted out and carcass sold for scrap.)
    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]
    Parts Car C220 1993 All body panels, headlights, interior engine and ECU available.


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    Re: 1999 W202 Mercedes C250 Turbodiesel for sale

    Ahh Tony, I feel your pain. My wife has bought a new Mazda 3 petrol. So the lovely Golf diesel has to go, sob!
    Johnnojack
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    Re: 1999 W202 Mercedes C250 Turbodiesel for sale

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony From West Oz View Post
    My wife has decided to buy a Toyota Camry, just like her friend's car.
    So, her C250 is up for sale.
    Message me on this forum or thru Gumtree if you would like specific photos or to answer your questions.

    http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bedfordale/cars-vans-utes/1999-mercedes-benz-c250-sedan/1131967274?posted=true


    Tony
    For anyone looking for a luxury vehicle, Germany engineering made for alternative fuels I thoroughly recommend Tony's car. They come with a factory built heat exchanger.
    Have one myself, and would buy this for the girlfriend, but as per colleagues, she doesn't get the kick out of pouring free waste into the fuel tank we oil barons do.
    Wants another new mazda3. Maybe I can get her to buy a diesel and sneak a bit of veggie in it when she's not around hehe
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    Re: 1999 W202 Mercedes C250 Turbodiesel for sale

    Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.

    Current Vehicles in stable:
    '85 Mercedes Benz W123 300CD Turbodiesel single tank using 95% used cooking oil and 5% to 10% misfuel (where someone had filled diesel vehicle with petrol).
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab. Running on used cooking oil with 5% to 10% misfuel.
    Toyota Camry Hybrid - (Wife's Car)

    Previous Vehicles:
    '90 Mazda Capella. (2000 - 2003) My first Fatmobile. Converted to fun on veggie oil with a 2 tank setup. Died when supercharger stuck at max boost for weeks. Stretched head bolts.
    '80 Mercedes 300D. 2 tank conversion [Sold]
    '84 Mercedes 300D. 1 tank, no conversion. Replaced engine with rebuilt OM617A turbodiesel engine. Finally had good power. Donor for current Fatmobile coupe. (body parted out and carcass sold for scrap.)
    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]
    Parts Car C220 1993 All body panels, headlights, interior engine and ECU available.


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    Re: 1999 W202 Mercedes C250 Turbodiesel for sale

    Tony what has been done in terms of conversion of this car - are you running it on oil or bio? 2nd tank?
    Holden Suburban K2500 1998 6.5L Turbo GM engine
    210,000KMs (90,000 on new crate motor)

    Currently 2 tanks in and working - 90 litre BIO tank and main tank of 160L WVO

    30 plate FPHE in Engine bay and Helton Dual coil in rear
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    50,000KM on Veg and 10,000Km on B100

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    Re: 1999 W202 Mercedes C250 Turbodiesel for sale

    Quote Originally Posted by craigcurtin View Post
    Tony what has been done in terms of conversion of this car - are you running it on oil or bio? 2nd tank?
    Craig,
    No conversion, just using biodiesel.
    We did not have much success using WVO, as the venturi pumps which transfer fuel from the saddle tank halves to the 'anti-splash container' didn't work well with WVO. The high viscosity of WVO (esp. in winter) is the issue.

    When I first started making our biodiesel. about 12 months ago, I was not washing the bio, letting it stand for a couple of months. Later, I had some byproduct enter the fuel system and that caused blocked fuel filters. I realised that I needed to improve my biodiesel process and started washing the bio.
    Soon after, my wife had a no progress situation and despite my best attempts at fault finding, I had to call on a specialist MB mechanic. The IP had a lot of residue (I presume from byproduct) in it and it was cleaned out. All the O rings in the fuel pipe connections were replaced and the car came back to us. Another week later, my wife was in Perth with a friend and the car again failed to proceed. I towed it to my MB independent mechanic who found that another O ring had failed, allowing air into the fuel system.
    We then went to petroleum diesel.
    Then a month later, the engine was not shutting down as it should, so I replaced the Shut off valve on the side of the IP. Then it would not start at all.

    My wife gave up on the car and wanted a Camry Hybrid like her friend's car. She now has one EXACTLY the same as her friend's.

    It turns out that the fuel pump (the lift pump) was not pumping fuel. The valves for the pump are not available from MB, so ~ $800 later and a new lift pump was installed. I looked inside the old lift pump and found that one of the valves was not seating properly (spring dislodged somehow). I could get a replacement valve from a Bosch Injector place if I could be bothered to do so.

    Sorry for the long story, but I wanted everyone to know that it is a good car and that I believe that the use of unwashed bio allowed byproduct to cause issues with the IP and fuel system O rings. The IP has been cleaned and bench tested, the fuel hose O rings replaced, and the lift pump replaced.

    I don't recommend using WVO in this model (W202 C250 Turbodiesel), but the W210 E300 Turbodiesel with the OM606 engine should be fine (does not have saddle tank).
    With quality fuel (eg washed biodiesel), this car should provide long reliable service.

    My C250 is going like a dream on 100% biodiesel, although I had used a WVO blend in it previously.
    It has an issue with one venturi pump (drivers side), which I believe is blocked, so I can only get just over 1/2 tank usage.
    I have overcome that by installing an electric fuel pump to transfer fuel from the Drivers side of the saddle tank to the passenger side where the venturi pump works well. I can now drive until well past the low fuel lamp coming on. Just a bit noisier with the 'tic tic tic' of the pump when the Ign. is on.
    I have a idea of how to fix the blocked venturi pump issue on these tanks (it happens with petrol cars also), but I need another fuel tank to test my repair theory. Note: the blockage only affects the drivers side venturi because the passenger side venturi is removable from the fuel tank and can be cleaned. The drivers side venturi pump cannot be accessed at all!
    Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.

    Current Vehicles in stable:
    '85 Mercedes Benz W123 300CD Turbodiesel single tank using 95% used cooking oil and 5% to 10% misfuel (where someone had filled diesel vehicle with petrol).
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab. Running on used cooking oil with 5% to 10% misfuel.
    Toyota Camry Hybrid - (Wife's Car)

    Previous Vehicles:
    '90 Mazda Capella. (2000 - 2003) My first Fatmobile. Converted to fun on veggie oil with a 2 tank setup. Died when supercharger stuck at max boost for weeks. Stretched head bolts.
    '80 Mercedes 300D. 2 tank conversion [Sold]
    '84 Mercedes 300D. 1 tank, no conversion. Replaced engine with rebuilt OM617A turbodiesel engine. Finally had good power. Donor for current Fatmobile coupe. (body parted out and carcass sold for scrap.)
    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]
    Parts Car C220 1993 All body panels, headlights, interior engine and ECU available.


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    Re: 1999 W202 Mercedes C250 Turbodiesel for sale

    It has gotta be frustrating having put all of that work into a car and then replacing it with a Camry. My Mrs likes the idea of biofuels but wants nothing to do with the processing or refuelling side, which is fine - she doesn't have to. I have 2 functional biofuelled vehicles and she won't drive either one. Instead she has a pristine 2007 Honda Jazz with 40,000 km on it that we pay $1,000 per annum on rego plus another $600 on insurance and gets driven less than 2,000 km a year. Extremely uneconomical motoring. I wish I could sell that thing.
    3DB
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    Re: 1999 W202 Mercedes C250 Turbodiesel for sale

    At least it is the Hybrid. Interesting to see the engine shut down when doing 70km/h & the car still stays at 70, the A/C still keeps pumping out cold air and then it starts up a minute or 2 later for 5 minutes, then shuts down again. We are doing a mileage check on it at the moment. I will update this post with it's fuel economy figures.
    Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.

    Current Vehicles in stable:
    '85 Mercedes Benz W123 300CD Turbodiesel single tank using 95% used cooking oil and 5% to 10% misfuel (where someone had filled diesel vehicle with petrol).
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab. Running on used cooking oil with 5% to 10% misfuel.
    Toyota Camry Hybrid - (Wife's Car)

    Previous Vehicles:
    '90 Mazda Capella. (2000 - 2003) My first Fatmobile. Converted to fun on veggie oil with a 2 tank setup. Died when supercharger stuck at max boost for weeks. Stretched head bolts.
    '80 Mercedes 300D. 2 tank conversion [Sold]
    '84 Mercedes 300D. 1 tank, no conversion. Replaced engine with rebuilt OM617A turbodiesel engine. Finally had good power. Donor for current Fatmobile coupe. (body parted out and carcass sold for scrap.)
    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]
    Parts Car C220 1993 All body panels, headlights, interior engine and ECU available.


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    Re: 1999 W202 Mercedes C250 Turbodiesel for sale

    The Camry Hybrid seems to be a good thing. You almost never see a Falcon taxi in Sydney anymore (other than wagons) - nearly all Camry Hybrids. My neighbours have had one since they came out and love it. I also saw an article somewhere when they first came out and they did a 5,000 km road test against both a new Falcon & Commodore and the Camry used almost exactly half the amount of fuel over the test. Tony - you'll correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe Toyota also warrant the battery pack for 8 years?
    3DB
    1995 Holden (Isuzu) Rodeo 2.8TD 4X4 - B100 since April 2013
    1976 Mercedes 300D Turbo 'The Coal Grenade' - B100 since May 2016
    (@thirddegreeburns on Instagram)

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    Re: 1999 W202 Mercedes C250 Turbodiesel for sale

    Yes, Toyota have increased the battery warranty to 8 years for all of the Camry Hybrids. My wife's 2010 model has 2 years of warranty still available.
    Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.

    Current Vehicles in stable:
    '85 Mercedes Benz W123 300CD Turbodiesel single tank using 95% used cooking oil and 5% to 10% misfuel (where someone had filled diesel vehicle with petrol).
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab. Running on used cooking oil with 5% to 10% misfuel.
    Toyota Camry Hybrid - (Wife's Car)

    Previous Vehicles:
    '90 Mazda Capella. (2000 - 2003) My first Fatmobile. Converted to fun on veggie oil with a 2 tank setup. Died when supercharger stuck at max boost for weeks. Stretched head bolts.
    '80 Mercedes 300D. 2 tank conversion [Sold]
    '84 Mercedes 300D. 1 tank, no conversion. Replaced engine with rebuilt OM617A turbodiesel engine. Finally had good power. Donor for current Fatmobile coupe. (body parted out and carcass sold for scrap.)
    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]
    Parts Car C220 1993 All body panels, headlights, interior engine and ECU available.


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