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  1. #11
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    Re: Quite surprising

    Tilly and Smithy standing shoulder to shoulder keeping the forum calm

    Last edited by tillyfromparadise; 17th August 2018 at 03:18 PM.

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    Re: Quite surprising

    So which one of you is wearing the funny hat?
    Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.

    Current Vehicles in stable:
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab. Running on used cooking oil with 5% to 10% misfuel.
    '2014 Toyota Prius (on ULP)


    Previous Vehicles:
    '90 Mazda Capella. (2000 - 2003) My first Fatmobile. Converted to fun on veggie oil with a 2 tank setup. Died when supercharger stuck at max boost for weeks. Stretched head bolts.
    '80 Mercedes 300D. 2 tank conversion [Sold]
    '84 Mercedes 300D. 1 tank, no conversion. Replaced engine with rebuilt OM617A turbodiesel engine. Finally had good power. Donor for current Fatmobile coupe. (body parted out and carcass sold for scrap.)
    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]
    Parts Car C220 1993 SOLD.
    '85 Mercedes Benz W123 300CD Turbodiesel single tank using 95% used cooking oil and 5% to 10% misfuel (where someone had filled diesel vehicle with petrol).


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    Re: Quite surprising

    He is someone who has been calmed down,
    It used to be a tall pointy hat.

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    Re: Quite surprising

    Hi everyone,

    A very similar discussion to this has been taking place on the infopop biodiesel forum where, if anything, their posting rate is even lower than ours.

    I posted the following information yesterday to the infopop forum:

    "I can think of several more reasons why people have stopped posting on this forum, but the fact that for the last 10 years automobile manufacturers have been warning that their new diesel cars are not compatible with biodiesel along with the fact the price of diesel fuel in the USA has dropped significantly are the two major reasons people stopped posting.

    As the below graph shows, the price of diesel fuel in the USA was cut in half between 2014 and 2016 when the cost of a gallon of #2 Highway diesel fuel crashed from around $4.00 a gallon to around $2.00 a gallon, about 53 cents US a litre which would be around 40 Pence a litre in the UK.
    I imagine there would be a whole lot of people in the UK who would suddenly find many reasons to stop making biodiesel if on the road diesel cost 40p a litre.

    With that type of huge reduction in price, many people in the USA suddenly discovered they could save the world in other ways besides making and using biodiesel



    If you are no longer making and using biodiesel there is not much incentive to continue discussing the finer points of it's production with other people- there is also very little incentive to start making and using biodiesel
    You will notice the same thing has happened on the SVO forum and, I am sure, for much the same reason."

    I did a bit more research and this morning I posted this further information to the Infopop biodiesel forum:

    "I became interested in when the decline in biodiesel use did start and what the major reason for the decline likely was.
    As some of you older biodiesel users might remember, there was a very popular Yahoo biodiesel discussion forum and it no longer is operating. So I had a look at the numbers on the yahoo forum and the big decline in participation on the Yahoo Biodiesel forum started in 2009.
    1n 2008, posts to the yahoo biodiesel forum totaled 2715. The following year in 2009 participation on the forum had crashed to only 905 posts.
    The yahoo forum then struggled on for several years with a much reduced participation number until the forum virtually died in 2013 with a total of only 51 posts for the entire year. There were 39 posts in 2014, 2 posts in 2015 and 17 posts in 2016.

    The yahoo Biodiesel forum was then "Mothballed" and made a private forum with the owner explaining:
    "This group is essentially defunct. California introduced strict new diesel rules, and in 2006 diesel cars were modified in a way that causes problems with Biodiesel. Since then, BD has seen a steep decline, which has been reflected in this group's traffic. From a peak of over 800 messages in one month in 2005, we've seen 8 messages in the past 6 months, most of which were spam."

    As you can see, the price of diesel did not start to decline until 2014, over a year after the Yahoo biodiesel forum had virtually ceased to function from a lack of participation.

    This strongly suggests that the owner of the Yahoo forum was correct and the main reason for the decline in backyard biodiesel production is mostly because diesel engines changed to direct injection with the warnings against using biodiesel from the engine manufacturers"

    Last edited by tillyfromparadise; 27th September 2018 at 10:32 AM.

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    Re: Quite surprising

    I also think that because of social media, gaming, and phones people don't go out to the shed so much. I see it in education, I teach engineering and build go-karts with kids. 10 years ago kids would do anything to have a drive on a kart, Now they are happy to just play with thier phones, as they dont want to get there hands dirty. You can see it also in the amount of race tracks that have closed in the states, shopping malls, playgrounds and skate parks dont have as many vistors and many have closed.
    Dam phone zombies!

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    Re: Quite surprising

    Can't agree more. My mum is a dietitian and her 'apprentices' tell her straight up that it is too hot today and they will not be working on the stove. So she sends them to peel potatoes in the cool room
    Another mate of mine is a master brewer at the local brewery back home, he says he can have hundreds of people who are more than capable of using their phones, but he can not find people who are willing and capable of pressing the right button at the right time on their machinery.
    It will be a rather interesting period over the next decades. As soon as it involves thinking or responsibility people just walk of the job.
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    1993 Toyota 75 Series with 1 HZ engine both 75l factory tanks and a custom 170l under tray tank.
    200.000km 80% on bio 10% on WVO 10% on dino,

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    Re: Quite surprising

    Quote Originally Posted by Bueff View Post
    It will be a rather interesting period over the next decades. As soon as it involves thinking or responsibility people just walk of the job.
    It's getting that way that you don't have to think at all. Just get an app to do it all for you.

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