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    Stolen WVO

    Well it had to happen.
    I have a pickup in Tuggeranong area for the past 3 years that I check at least twice a week and strange but I haven't gotten any from them for the past 2 weeks I asked the guy's there and apparently there was a "Young fella" that gave them the impression he worked with me that picked up last week.
    He just walked in and said "Where is your Oil" What a cheek
    Anyway I have set the restaurant straight and if they see him again they will be chasing him off. And if I see him
    "What a Jerk"
    HDJ80 (aka Kiwipete)
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    Re: Stolen WVO

    I had that happen too recently. My drum outside a restaurant was half full and then when I checked it again a few days later it was empty. I have no idea who did it but I'm thinking of getting lockable lids made up for mine.
    Sean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Jones View Post
    I fear this problem will only continue to get worse and worse.
    When I started fuel making bio it was 90 cents a litre I made bio not to save money but because I could, These days people are doing it for saving money alone and I think a lot of those are more aggressive than the older hands.....

    I put a lot of the blame onto people advertising the use of biodiesel etc just like Jonathon Thwaites course when he visited our little back water to get more people to make bio.... I still don't understand why he came to Canberra unless there was something it it for him.... or someone thought it would be a good idea --- Well forget it it is a bad idea...
    Really we should not be promoting it as the more that need wvo the more problems we will encounter.

    If anyone is reading this for the first time and looking at making bio or going the wvo way make sure you get you wvo before you start and if you are going to go about it like this tosser did don't bother get a bike....

    People need to understand that we put in an awful lot of work and effort into getting and servicing our pickups and to loss oil like this pisses us all off.
    HDJ80 (aka Kiwipete)
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    Re: Stolen WVO

    hi

    to give you an idea of the situation in france where I live, there are some places where it is impossible to find oil ! More and more people are using svo and there are almost as many diesel cars as unleaded so it is very popular.

    I also got some oil stolen at the rear of the restaurant i get it from.

    It is illegal in France to use oil as fuel, so it refrains people from doing it. Whenever it becomes legal, I can't imagine what will happen ...

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    Re: Stolen WVO

    I had a television stolen last week, and I blame anyone who has said they saw something good on TV. If no one said TV was any good, no one would have stolen my TV. The person who stole it is an OK bloke, you cant blame him for wanting to get in on the action, but the person who told him......

    Ok I didnt have my television stolen. But who is being blamed here and who should be?

    I think the people to blame are the theives here, the people who steal oil from other peoples drums.

    And once again I will ask the question. How many people here discovered using used cooking oil for fuel themselves, and how many found it out (perhaps by accident) in a form of "mass media"?
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    Chris,
    How did I fond out about using vegetable oil as a diesel fuel?
    I found out from my father and grandfather who used olive oil in diesel engines and used gas producers to fuel petrol engines during WW2.
    I was urged into action by reading of the use of vegetable oil as diesel fuel by others, in the Renew magazine in around July 2000.

    I did a lot of research before converting my Mazda Capella and using it on vegetable oil in September 2000.
    I have helped over 2000 people since then, including members of this forum and others on the infopop and goat industries forums in USA and UK respectively, along with members of WARFA and individuals across Australia and the world, to use vegetable oils as diesel fuel. Not by promoting the "cheap fuel" aspect, but by promoting the environmental benefits of using this "waste product", to reduce emissions created by using petroleum products.
    Despite pressure to state that this was "cheap fuel", I have never promoted it as such. The TV stations added their own slant to interviews using "voice overs" and images of bowser prices rolling back to $0 c/L. These were not the messages I have presented, rather the images that the shallow, greed oriented media organisations have promulgated.
    I don't have a problem with people who use vegetable oil purely on economic grounds, but I feel thay are missing the real advantage for our planet, as miniscule as this impact may be, of reducing the CO2 loading of the atmosphere caused by burning petroleum products in our vehicles.

    Despite some people having their own interpretation of my morals, I believe that theft is a crime, regardless who steals. I also note that one member, who is now trying to blame people who promote vegetable oil, is the same one who previously promoted stealing the oil from restaurants.

    Regards,
    Tony
    Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.

    Current Vehicles in stable:
    '85 Mercedes Benz W123 300CD Turbodiesel single tank using 95% used cooking oil and 5% to 10% misfuel (where someone had filled diesel vehicle with petrol).
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab. Running on used cooking oil with 5% to 10% misfuel.
    Toyota Camry Hybrid - (Wife's Car)

    Previous Vehicles:
    '90 Mazda Capella. (2000 - 2003) My first Fatmobile. Converted to fun on veggie oil with a 2 tank setup. Died when supercharger stuck at max boost for weeks. Stretched head bolts.
    '80 Mercedes 300D. 2 tank conversion [Sold]
    '84 Mercedes 300D. 1 tank, no conversion. Replaced engine with rebuilt OM617A turbodiesel engine. Finally had good power. Donor for current Fatmobile coupe. (body parted out and carcass sold for scrap.)
    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]



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    Re: Stolen WVO

    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Jones View Post
    I'll happily share my Knowledge with the grass roots Veggers who are in it for the long haul and prepared to put in the groundwork to learn about Veg but I just hope to hell the attention seeking misguided greenies or those prepared to sell out for whatever they can get don't stuff it up for everyone else in the meantime.
    You are spot on there... I couldn't Agree with you more... Exactly my approach..
    HDJ80 (aka Kiwipete)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony From West Oz View Post
    Not by promoting the "cheap fuel" aspect, but by promoting the environmental benefits of using this "waste product", to reduce emissions created by using petroleum products.
    Tony it is time you catch up... times have changed.... The more people that do this the more pressure is put on the ground level environment. Food stocks deminishing ... Just see what is happening with corn in the US... So it is time to stop promoting it "fullstop". Stating that biofuels are "good for the Environment" is BS.... we are as bad as Dino Diesel users.... just in a different way...

    Below Text is snipped from Biofuels Can Damage Environment More than they Benefit It - It's Official! | celsias


    Something that many of us in the environmental field have known for a while now is at long last being acknowledged by the scientific community. Biofuels, often touted as the answer to our transport fuel problems, can cause more harm to the environment and to some of the world’s poorest communities than they do good. The EU, China and the USA especially have been promoting the uptake of biofuels as a replacement to petroleum based fuels for automotive transport in recent years. They have all set national targets within specific timeframes for increased biofuel use.


    This rush to embrace biofuels has created a whole raft of environmental and social problems, ranging from deforestation to farm worker displacement to higher food prices to increased carbon emissions . Now, the scientific community is calling for a more cautionary approach to biofuels uptake. In their report “Sustainable Biofuels: prospects and challenges” released yesterday, the Royal Society is calling on the UK government to put in place policies that will ensure biofuels uptake is genuinely benefiting the environment.
    HDJ80 (aka Kiwipete)
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    Re: Stolen WVO

    Quote Originally Posted by hdj80 View Post
    The operative word here is CAN.

    This rush to embrace biofuels has created a whole raft of environmental and social problems, ranging from deforestation to farm worker displacement to higher food prices to increased carbon emissions.
    No, the rush to PROFIT from biofuels has created these problems.

    On one hand, perhaps unsustainable biofuels are a necessary evil to help flow cash into the development of a new generation of sustainable biofuels.

    On the other hand, their production has resulted in a great deal of misinformation and bad publicity spreading, about biofuels in general, which may actually kill any chance of better alternatives being developed before it is too late.

    Edit: To those still beating on the "keep quiet about veg-oil" drum: If you knew about an imminent disaster, such as a military attack on your city, would you keep quiet about it for the fear that telling people to evacuate would risk your chances of escaping safely?

    Just wondering where you draw the line?
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    Re: Stolen WVO

    I agree with Tony concerning RECYCLED OIL, we should talk about it so everyone knows about it, because all the waste must be used and show people that there are alternatives.

    But concerning fuel made from SVO, we must keep on communicating about the rush on profit and select our suppliers. Use only localy produced oil and produced with respect of our planet. This is oliomobile.org opinion. If bio fuel can damage our planet, it the big fuel industry and government fault, not our, so we have to fight against this and show a good and green way to make biofuel.

    As far as i'm concerned, I help only people who show respect to the planet, even if they want to save money. Because of the economical crisis and our bloody new government, poor people are becoming more and more poor so I think it is right to help these guys as long as they respect our planet, by doing other things besides like recycling glass, plastic paper, or using public transport whenever they can etc ...

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