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Old 19th August 2008, 11:49 PM
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Gday,Today i met a very negative mechanic about biodiesel.His theory is that the free fatty acids in biodiesel get deposited in the injecter pump and somehow get converted into hydrochloric acid which then eats the inside of your pump.I think it was a good example of a little bit of knowledge is dangerous.regards westwinds
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Re: Negative Diesel Mechanic

Westwinds,
This is your mission, if you decide to accept it:
You have to convince the mechanic that biodiesel is good or diesel engines.
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Of course if Veg is already hard to get in your area as it is I believe in many country regions, It would be completely counter productive to try to change this mechanics mind. Having him telling a whole load of people about Veg, No doubt a number of whom would want to give it a go, would put even more pressure on the supplies in your area and make things difficult for yourself and those already around you using veg.

Some peoples first reaction might be to want to turn this guy around to "
see the light" but those with a bit more intelligence may want to stop and consider all the ramifications of doing that and if the best thing isn't to leave things be.
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Of course if Veg is already hard to get in your area as it is I believe in many country regions, It would be completely counter productive to try to change this mechanics mind. Having him telling a whole load of people about Veg, No doubt a number of whom would want to give it a go, would put even more pressure on the supplies in your area and make things difficult for yourself and those already around you using veg.
What he said. I'd be "mate - I tried it once and it dissolved my gearbox...."
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Don't joke about this, I had a common rail mech tell me bio eats out your fuel tank! Only if you leave the caustic in it mate was my thought, but my common rail car did not do this, only the shitty components the manufacturer put in there failed / dissolved away. Piss poor.
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Re: Negative Diesel Mechanic

Well here oil is still relatively easy to get.

I think I would ask the question, "of the people making biodiesel well and not having problems, what percent of them come in here?"

Of course its 0.

My mechanic admitted that there was good and bad biodiesel, just as there is good and bad diesel. Yes there have been cars requiring $8000 injector rebuilds only just out of warranty that have never seen bio......
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Re: Negative Diesel Mechanic

And of course if you set aside a small amount of the savings that are made you could buy a replacement, injector or IP or what ever when evere that happens.

We all know of cars that have done well over 100 000 k's on bio and vege, and at a conservative guess that might amount $10 000 worth of savings. Hell turf the injector and buy a new car!!

Finally they are called "Diesel mechanics" long before they where called "biodiesel mechanics" because they have been breaking down with fuel related problems (water, ULSD) for decades.
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Old 21st August 2008, 02:41 AM
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Re: Negative Diesel Mechanic

I am sure all those that frequent these pages know the truth about Bio and veg in relation to its effect on engines and fuels system components but that is not really the point here.

Once we get past our urges to show how clever we are at knowing more than a Diesel mechanic, what the hell good does trying to tell them or the the world do us?
I prefer it when someone thinks Bio and veg is no good for my car and wants to let everyone know because them doing that is in fact in my best interests.
I don't even mind people thinking I'm an idiot for using it because it gives me even greater satisfaction knowing who the real idiot is and I don't have a need to prove I'm right, it happens every time I fill up again with veg based fuel.
I am seeing the supplies of oil around me dry up for reasons I can't control. I'm certainly not going to shoot myself in the foot by trying to set close minded people straight when the fact is if I am able to do that, it only lends itself to making things harder for me to continue using veg.

Experts and the general public can think whatever the hell they like and if they want to think Biodiesel dosen't work, that's fine by me.
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I guess it depends on whether your motive for using biodiesel is purely personal gain, or if you are interested in helping other find alternatives to fossil fuels.
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I guess it depends on whether your motive for using biodiesel is purely personal gain, or if you are interested in helping other find alternatives to fossil fuels.
I have no problem with the fact I am in this for "personal gain" as you put it.
The welfare of my family becomes before the welfare of anyone else's. To reverse the situation, I would think anyone else that put the welfare of MY family before their own was neglecting their own kin and in fact rather strange.

I am not interested in helping others discover Veg fuels, saving the whales, gorillas or any other noble cause, although that does not mean I am against those that want to commit themselves to these various causes. ( well the last 2 anyway )
I see no benefit in undermining the advantages of the knowledge I have discovered and worked hard at learning what allows my family to enjoy things they may not be ale to otherwise, and certainly I am not going to do anything that will ruin this.
If anyone thinks that is selfish, I'll console myself with the looks my kids give me when I am able to do the little things to spoil them that I would not be able to do if I weren't using veg for fuel.

Despite the high moral ground that is often preached in forums about spreading the veg oil word, the reality is that very, very few of the people I know that are veg oil users do want to tell the world about it and the great majority are happy to keep very quiet and for some good and very real,valid reasons.
While some may condemn this and voice their disapproval, The people I personally know that want to keep quiet are some of the most generous, selfless, helpful and most decent people I have ever come across in my life and I am honored to be able to call them my friends. In consideration of this, what the hell do I care about those that would berate their position?

Those that want to lambast their beliefs and desire to keep their knowledge to themselves for their own benefit are wasting their breath on not just me, but all of these other fine people as well.

While once I too would have wanted to show how clever I was by correcting those that have the wrong idea of veg fuels. In doing that however, I discovered it was much a pointless exercise anyway particularly with people like mechanics and others that have been doing something for 20 years and "know" what they are talking about.
Things do and have changed and now I realise the smart thing for me to do is keep my mouth shut and let the misguided think and preach whatever it is they are determined to believe.
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