Hey all got my new patrol today and i'm getting an Lpg fumigation system put on it for $3500 - $3000 rebate so $500. Anyway was just wandering is it alright to run this with biodiesel??

Cheers

Absolutely fine for biodiesel, but you may want to search on recent posts in some of the other forum sections here with terms like "Patrol" and "LPG" both these issues have been recently discussed.

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3000 rebate? That's 2000 from the feds and 1000 from your state gov isn't it?
3.5K is a good price, in NSW it's about 4K
Who did yours, what make is it?

Hello Lux

I am curious why you want to burn LPG instead of biodiesel. Biodiesel is a lot cheaper.

I think there are a lot of fairy tales floating around about the Magical effects of LPG fumigation.

Tilly

Marc, what is this about a State rebate, I haven't heard anything about that.

By the way, I just borrowed a book from Robert on Propane Fuel Conversions. It is oriented more towards petrol conversions, but it has quite a bit on the concepts about the systems which I intend to digest before I start doing anymore investigations on the available systems.

I just finished reading Robert's book on Propane Conversions and I must say that the systems are much more simpler than either a petrol carburetor or an injection system.

One thing that I will have to have on the propane tank is a 'gas fitting' - then I can hook up a hot plate when I want to barbeque.

I think that the WA state government came to the party with extra $1000.
LPG fumigation is a very primitive system and truck drivers in the states have been experimenting with crude devices for some time now.
I spoke to a guy in Sydney recently that is developing a new Autogas injection system for diesel engines but I don't know more details.
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Tilly, I hope you can read this up there in paradise, the system in question (I ask specifically for you), does not include magnets nor catalyst




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Hello Marc

Did he explain how a fuel that contains only 65% of the energy content of petro-diesel supposedly delivers 20% more power and torque while using 20% less Fuel?
Can you provide the URL to website that scientifically explains how this imposibility occures?
Has anyone explained to your satisfaction how this is supposed to occure?
Can you explain in your own words how this is supposed to happen?

LPG is NOT a Catalyst.
LPG is JUST a fuel, no more and no less.
Diesel engines DO NOT normally exhaust 20- 25% of their fuel unburned.
I ran a Mazda Van for 14 years on LPG and I can assure you LPG is NOT a magical fuel.
The only reason LPG is cheaper to use than Petro-diesel is because it is less than half the price of Petro-diesel and I bet that will change within the next year.

"A fool and and his money are soon parted"
Thomas Tusser

Tilly

I reckon the fuel companies would have come up with reasons to justify the price of lpg going up and up, they will use excuses like more demand equals more production more deliveries to petrol stations that cost more, so the price will have to go up to cover these extra costs.

When the price of fuel got over a dollar the price of lpg conversions appeared to go up and now people are talking in the range of $2500 too $3500.
Now conversions are subsidized the price will sneak up.

Diesel was a lot cheaper than petrol at the pump what happened their, maybe they will put a nice smell into lpg and then claim its has been refined a lot more and say the price will have to go up to cover the extra refining.

Must be because they do not count the TOTAL fuel used, just the diesel? or just the LPG?