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AMLagonda
5th August 2006, 04:55 AM
Hi,
How do you book to go to the UWA Biodiesal workshop on Sunday 27th August?
Edit: now Im booked :)

I havent even begun to make any biodiesel yet as Im trying to learn as much as I can about it but I have one huge advantage, I own a fish and chip shop :) BUT I use the 50/50 animal fat stuff because 1.Its cheap and 2. It tastes better and we would kill off our customers if we were to change...

At least I can start off with fairly clean oil (good filter) its just hard to keep it liquid form...

Oh and I bought the Tasman book (Simple Biodiesel) already *me/ hides* and I found it a good read for someone that hasnt done anything like this before.

Chris
6th August 2006, 05:10 PM
Hi,
How do you book to go to the UWA Biodiesal workshop on Sunday 27th August?
Edit: now Im booked :)

I havent even begun to make any biodiesel yet as Im trying to learn as much as I can about it but I have one huge advantage, I own a fish and chip shop :) BUT I use the 50/50 animal fat stuff because 1.Its cheap and 2. It tastes better and we would kill off our customers if we were to change...

At least I can start off with fairly clean oil (good filter) its just hard to keep it liquid form...

Oh and I bought the Tasman book (Simple Biodiesel) already *me/ hides* and I found it a good read for someone that hasnt done anything like this before.
Hi there
How lucky are you mate May I make a suggestion to you
If you have two vats in your shop why don't you do a trial run?
Put up a sign and let your customers know that their have a choice of straight vegie oil cooked fish and chips or your long standing "magic mixture"
Surely that will give you the feedback that you need wont it?
It remains me of an episode some years ago
In Dubbo NSW there was a lot of competition amongst butcher shops The butcher with the best turnover as well as all the other butchers where interviewed by a bunch of final year students from the local Uni doing a degree in marketing
The most successful butcher said that it was the fact that he sold mince meat at $1.99 per kg others of course had various views as to why they where successful in the face of stiff competition amongst themselves as well as Coles and Woolies
The students also interviewed a lot of customers that come out of the shopping centre with meat purchases in their shopping to find out what attracted them to the different butchers shops
It was found that the most successful Butcher was not the lowest price of mince meat but the fact that he was the closest on to the car park and people did not want to carry the meat a longer way than necessary
The guy put his prices of mince up to the same level as all the other butchers He also employed a couple of young kids on Friday's and Saturdays to carry the meat purchased at his shop to peoples cars
His business increased further as well as his margin after that
The guy was convinced that he had the busiest shop due to the low price of mince
Alas that was not the case
It may be the same case here may be not
It will do you no harm to find out and have your vehicles run for a very low cost without risking your customer base
May be with the healthy eating trip now days you may increase your customer base
Just a thought, Even though making biodiesel with a fifty fifty mixture is not a problem if you where to adopt SVO precautions in you vehicle(s)
Cheers
Chris


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Captain Echidna
7th August 2006, 06:35 PM
Congratulations.
To seperate the solids/ liquid oils, I filter through a tshirt in a drum. The soild fats stay in the tshirt, the liquids flow through. It is not fast however.

Perhaps a straight veg oil system for using the tallows would be an idea?

Matt
8th August 2006, 01:42 PM
Don't worry too much about the animal fat issue, biodiesel made from it will be fine on the warm days. In the depths of winter in the colder parts of this country it may be an issue. I live in warmer parts and I run on bio made from oil just like this all year round. 50/50 tallow to vege oil. Yes its semi solid at room temp say 20 degrees C but the bio will stay liquid down a bit further than this.

Matt

AMLagonda
11th August 2006, 12:08 AM
LOL some customer asked me today what I do with my old oil and my wife quickly told him that our future plans are to make biodiesel and that Im going on a course to learn to make it and hes like "its really hard to do you know" I said "yer I know".

Must be a growing club these home brewers.

Robert
11th August 2006, 11:16 AM
Hey, I'm sure we'd all like to know about the UWA biodiesel workshops. If anyone could post any info in a thread, or as a calendar event that would be great (Tony?).

AMLagonda
12th August 2006, 12:36 PM
sustainability.ofm.uwa.edu.au/welcome/biodiesel (http://www.sustainability.ofm.uwa.edu.au/welcome/biodiesel)

UWA Biodiesel Workshop