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    Hello

    I am looking at biodiesel as a feul source, I have no idea of methods, costs or required equipment. I live in brisbane if some one could pass some information to me that would be great.

    Thank you

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    Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

    Hi Nigel I live in Brisbane north suburbs. I have not yet made any fuel and am still in the process of gathering information such as chemical suppliers etc.
    I have a few postings which you might find useful..
    http://www.biofuelsforum.com/showthread.php?t=39
    http://www.biofuelsforum.com/showthread.php?t=38

    Also here are some links to the whole process..
    http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html
    http://www.biodieselcommunity.org/
    http://www.localb100.com/book.html
    http://journeytoforever.org/biodiese...snew.html#wash

    I have been reading and researching this topic now for some months, so it is just a matter of getting the equipment together now.
    I drive a Nissan 4.2Td 4wd and I use about 60 to 90 ltrs of fuel a month so I would be aiming at making about that much at a time. I asked at the local thai restaurant the other night for their waste cooking oil which he said I could have but they only use about 20 ltrs a month, so I will need a larger supply than that, although that would still be good oil to use.
    The Appleseed processor is the equipment I aim to set up.

    http://www.biodieselcommunity.org/appleseedprocessor/

    There is lots of information in these links and it will take time to digest so read and enjoy.

    regards
    Peter

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    • #3
      Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

      Hi there all I am in Toowoomba, and looking at getting into the Biodiesel game, one for the fuel being better for the environment, but also that the information that I am reading is stating that it is alot cheaper than what we are having to pay now for fuel.... Is there anyone around this area that would be interested in onselling this to me, if the price is right and it doesn't damage my engine.

      The car that I have is a:
      1991 Nissan Patrol GQ
      4.2L natural desiel


      Thanks
      Adrian.

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      • #4
        Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

        Hi Adrian,

        I've not seen any QLD people reply to you on this yet, so I'll have a quick go on their behalf.

        The subject of making and using biodiesel is a bit of a touchy one in Australia due to our ridiculous tax laws on this. This has caused most people who could be making a thriving scene, go underground. See this thread here and this FAQ here for more info.

        Essentially, there is a whole army of people out there who could be helping you all out. There are already some people in some parts of Australia that do secretly on-sell biodiesel to their mates. If you are very lucky, you will find people publically willing to admit to making it (under an alias on a web forum of course), but you will certainly not find anyone willing to admit to selling it publically.

        In Sydney, we were lucky enough to find a commercially made source that we are able to buy as a group. This enabled us to be "legitimate" biodiesel users.

        I know that the Australian Biodiesel Group, who run the plant that supplied our group are opening a plant in QLD soon. Not sure if there are any other sources up there. If any of you want a private (hidden and locked away area like we use for our Sydney group) space to discuss this stuff, let me know. You may be lucky and get someone private messaging you to help...
        Robert.
        Site Admin.

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        • #5
          Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

          Hi Adrian and Nigel,

          local (to seQLD) commercial BD producders are non existant. So we, like most other around the world are left to our devices. There is loads of solid info available through google. I'd start reading at these websites;
          http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
          http://www.schnews.org.uk/diyguide/h...ebiodiesel.htm.

          These are the two I started with. Then I drifted towards the forums once I had the basics, and then I started asking loads of the questions.

          I figure I'll need to make somewhere between 200-300lts a month. So I'll be looking at making a 200 ltr batch a fortnight or so. I have all of my quotes and am starting to gather all the equipment. Slowly...

          Good luck and welcome to the BD community.

          Joe
          Joe Morgan
          Brisbane Biodiesel Site Admin
          http://www.brisbanebiodiesel.com

          Searching tips using Google - SVO Dual tank systems
          SVO, Common Rail and Direct Injection - Vehicles converted to Used Cooking Oil

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          • #6
            Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

            Thanks for that info Robert, yeh I have had a PM from another supporter on this forum, but depending on the reply that we get on this thread I might take you up on that offer of the private thread.

            Thanks
            Adrian

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            • #7
              Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

              Hi, I live in Hervey Bay Qld, I have followed many webb pages both in US and Oz. I would be very interested in the Bio D product but have little idea how to access Methanol and Lye supplies. The Hobby shops around my area dont use it and enquiries have not produced much success. I have been testing processes with Petro Diesel which I have had good result from small test batches, and have now most of the equipment to set up a distilling plant of a modest scale. I would prefer however to be into the bio-diesel user area as it is I believe a superior product for our engines, also assisting a longer engine life in the bargain, I believe small problems with B100 can be resolve with going to B95 or B80. I have read volumes over the past couple of months but always from people geagraphically removed from where I live. I have retired now and would like to get a better klm for my $. It is a matter of making the best of what we have got. I am ready to get started on some project to meet my motoring needs. I have a 1996 Hi-Ace Commuter camper (2.8Lt) and a 1980 Toyo Troupy (3.75Lt) - both diesel. I would be happy to share any info I have accumalated and would be happy to discuss any matter in these areas. You only win by sharing and this type of forum is terrific. Any one interested in exchange of local info or whatever then great.
              I am also on skype as dillyau

              To everyone

              All the good oil!

              Dillyman
              dillyman
              Senior Member
              Last edited by dillyman; 22 November 2005, 04:10 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

                Hi Dillyman,

                Quite a few Queenslanders are now appearing in the forum. Some are near each other and some are not. It will only be a matter of time before more biodiesel folk pop in here that are geographically close to you. Also, now that you have mentioned your location (I've added it to your profile), search engines will find you here. It takes about 3-4 days now for google to list new posts, so if anyone does a search on "hervey bay biodiesel" they will find you.
                I'll also be adding skype integration into the forum soon, so you can have a little icon at the top of your posts and people can just click it to skype you. Hopefully others will find this useful too.
                Good luck with the biodiesel production, I'm sure you'll find some help in here. Let us know how it goes.
                Robert.
                Site Admin.

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                • #9
                  Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

                  I've just added some quick and dirty code to make Skype usernames work via your profile. Dillyman, go to your control panel (the link called "User CP" in the top left), then choose "Edit Profile" on the left and under "instant messaging, you will now see an option for "skype handle" enter your skype name in there, save changes and it should appear as a little skype icon in your name bar above any posts you make.
                  You can see the little green "S" in mine. This should enable others to easily find you on skype.
                  In the near future, I'll be running another upgrade to the forum which will integrate skype better than this, but if you at least put your skype name into your profile, you will be ready when it happens.

                  Cheers,
                  Robert.
                  Site Admin.

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                  • #10
                    Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

                    Hi Robert,

                    Thankyou for your info about the SKYPE icon inclusion, especially with the "dirty Code" as you call it. That will make voice contact easier, quicker and thanks to your skills and prompt response safe for discussion. Especially in a close geographical hook up. I may have a methanol source soon I hope it proves to be so, N of Bris. A major supplier if information is accurate. I will advise if this is correct.

                    Rgds,

                    All the good Oil!

                    Dillyman

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                    • #11
                      Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

                      Hi Dillyman,

                      I've rung a fuel depot in Gympie that sells Methanol in 20Ltr drums. The details are as follows:

                      BP/Reliance Gympie Gateway
                      location : Gympie
                      address : 295 Brisbane Rd, Gympie Qld 4570
                      phone : 07 5482 9744
                      fax : 07 5482 9282

                      Not sure about the prince but the BP/Releiance at Nambour has it for $39. Also the 200Lts drums are $214. They would be similar prices there hopefully.

                      Joe
                      Joe Morgan
                      Brisbane Biodiesel Site Admin
                      http://www.brisbanebiodiesel.com

                      Searching tips using Google - SVO Dual tank systems
                      SVO, Common Rail and Direct Injection - Vehicles converted to Used Cooking Oil

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                      • #12
                        Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

                        Hi Joe ,
                        Thanks for the added info. Sorry for not responding been off the air. My ISP has been doiing big cganges and it blew my coonection away, for the past 2/3 day my password would not work. Gee there are words for times like this.

                        Thanks again Joe. Will follow that up soon. Cheers!!!

                        dillyman

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                        • #13
                          Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

                          Hi Joe,

                          I was sure I had replied to your request for prices ,locations etc, but I cannot find it so here it is. The Gympie station is able to supply 20Lt drums at $50.60 and will ship in 200 lt drums at $334.00. Nice big mark up for shipping down the road.

                          I have found another supplier more local to Hervey Bay. Not actually called in yet so will reserve any definate info. His prices however are $50.60 for 20 Lts. A 200 LT (44gll) drum is $250.00

                          I will confirm this info in a couple of weeks when I intend to purchase, as I am so close to start up WoW!!! Exciting Eh!

                          Looking forward to the the chat line, I hope you can connect me soon.


                          Thanks for the leads, appreciated.

                          Rgds

                          Dillyman

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                          • #14
                            Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

                            Nigel to answer your question cost is variable but let me tell you what I do.

                            Methanol $190 per 200 litres
                            KOH Approx $50 per 25 kg bag
                            Sulphuric acid $50 per 15 litres

                            I use acid base since my oil which does not titrate very high (3.5) uses less KOH in a base stage. The amount of KOH that I save on costs more than the Sulphuric Acid i use. It also maximises yield as the free fatty acids are made into biodeisel before you do a base catalyst stage.

                            If I scale up and give it to you in 1000 litres lots then the costs would be
                            $190 methanol, 10kg KOH $20, Acid 1 litre $3, electricity $2, water $3 plus my time. So that comes to $218 for 1000 litres, or 22 cents per litre! This will scale up or down depending on batch size, it is most important that you buy your ingrediants at the lowest price, which is where I can help out. I have done this long enough to have found the cheapest/best suppliers!

                            Love it yet?
                            Matt
                            Biodiesel Bandit

                            Landcruiser '98 80 series B100.

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                            • #15
                              Re: New Brisbane User - Requesting Help

                              maybe we should all meet up some time in brissy and compare notes etc. I am in strathpine and interested in learning about the acid method I am making it using caustic soda and methanol only making 20 litre lots but that does me a while as i ride a motor bike to work a lot of the jargon on the bio diesel sites can easily make it all sound to hard but when someone shows you the very basics its not that hard at all
                              cheers gary
                              started on bio now on blends next a svo conversion 1986 toyota 4runner

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