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  • Biodiesel in Adelaide

    Hi
    Recently moved to Adelaide from the UK and I'm wondering what the law is regarding making Biodiesel for personal use in SA?
    I've made Bio in the UK for the past 5 years with good results and would like to start brewing again.
    Any advice on the law etc. gratefully received.

    Cheers,Jonneeb

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    Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

    Jonneeb

    try to catch up with some of the local brewers. they will inform you of what happens with the Australian tax laws.
    you'll also get to know anyone who can help or more importantly find out where not to collect from and who also collects from what areas. that way you know you aren't stepping on anyones toes as well.

    Good luck
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      Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

      We don't actually make Biodiesel for use on the road. .We make experimental batches to see how it turns out, and to get the glycerine byproduct. Some might make it to use on their hobbyfarm or for heating. The reason no-one makes it to use in their car is you need to register as a producer and pay tax on it.
      Johnnojack
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      • #4
        Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

        Hi,
        Understand, so, can you point me in the right direction to find the government legal stuff then that tells me how much tax, how to register etc etc so I can see if it's worth doing?
        What do you do with the Glycerine by-product?

        Whereabouts are you in SA?

        Cheers for the info.

        Jonneeb

        Originally posted by Johnnojack View Post
        We don't actually make Biodiesel for use on the road. .We make experimental batches to see how it turns out, and to get the glycerine byproduct. Some might make it to use on their hobbyfarm or for heating. The reason no-one makes it to use in their car is you need to register as a producer and pay tax on it.

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        • #5
          Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

          Hi Jonneeb

          I am just starting out make some backyard biodiesel on Adelaide. Have you made any progress?

          Cheers
          Phil2042

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          • #6
            Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

            Originally posted by phil2042 View Post
            Hi Jonneeb

            I am just starting out make some backyard biodiesel on Adelaide. Have you made any progress?

            Cheers
            Phil2042
            Hi Phil
            Unfortunately, No, we are still living in rented accomodation so, as the job can be a bit messy, I think it may be better to wait until we have our own place!
            Where are you based? I made Biodiesel in the UK for about 5 years before coming out here so if I can be of any help please just ask away.
            Cheers,
            Jon

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            • #7
              Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

              Hi Jon

              I am based at Modbury. Happy to catch up and talk biodiesel.

              Phil2042

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              • #8
                Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

                I think JohnnoJack may have been pulling your leg a bit....

                The only stories I've heard about people lodging their biofuel taxation return with the fuel excise department are that they get frowned at and told to come back when they're doing thousands of litres a month, not fifty.

                However, that said, the rules are that you are not allowed to mix excisable fuel with non excisable fuel and that you must pay fuel tax, I think it's something around 47c/l, on the biodiesel you produce. I've yet to hear of anyone that has a regular relationship with the fuel excise people, so perhaps it's because all the bio is made for the glycerol after all :-)

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                  Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

                  Ah, my understanding is improving.
                  Thank you.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

                    Hi Phil,
                    I'm in Port Noarlunga but I work in Daw Park so I'd probably come to you from work.
                    How far along with reactor build, regular oil supply etd are you?
                    Cheers,
                    Jonneeb

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                    • #11
                      Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

                      Hi
                      I am still making test batches in 2 lt bottles. Collected 20 lt of used veggie oil from a friend.... so extremely basic start. Do you have a pic of the reactor you have used in the past?
                      Phil

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                      • #12
                        Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

                        Hi Phil
                        Understand where you are now. Yes, I have photo's of the set up I built in the UK, pm me your email address and I'll send them over, for some reason this forum won't accept the pictures..
                        It was made from an old copper hot water cylinder, I aquired the pipework from a friend and only really paid for the valves as I maanged to get my paws on most everything else for free.
                        I suggest you secure a regular supply of oil before building anything of any size, could save you plenty of time and money too.
                        I was regularly processing 90 Litre batches back in the UK, with some really good results.
                        If you want any help setting up just let me know.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

                          My email address......phil2042****part of email address removed by mod*** mail.com

                          Look forward to a photo or two.

                          Cheers, Phil


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                          • #14
                            Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

                            Hi Guys just new to this forum, I own a company which makes mid size biodiesel units in South Australia. With answers to the excise question the government wants 38.1c per litre for biodiesel which does not meet the australian fuel standard, the same standard which is used in the UK and Europe. By law even if you are only making biodiesel for homer use or to make glycerine you still have to be registered with the ATO as the government has taxed not "biodiesel" but "methyl Ester".

                            if you test you fuel to the standard and it passes you dont have to pay the excise and this is a rebate process through AusIndustries.

                            currently there is only one company which tests fuel in australia for the public but this cost over $3k for all the tests.

                            we are looking up setting a lab up to allow small scale produces like you guys to get samples tested more cost effectivly.

                            happy biodiesel making

                            cheers morgan

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                              Re: Biodiesel in Adelaide

                              Hi Morgan

                              Good luck with the manufacturing of Biodiesel units. And with setting up the lab for testing. I would like to stay in touch with how it is all developing.

                              Phil

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