what is the absolute best car for WVO long distance driving..

[Corporal_Canada]

i am so sorry about the previous paragraph, you can disregard it, so ill just ask for a 100% confirmation, in a big container i can put 10L of station bought diesel and pour 10L of filtered wvo that passed through a i dunno a sock and a 400 mesh filter ???? and not add anything else ? no biocide ? no fuel injector cleaner, no paraffin, no kerosene, just connect the mixer bit to my drill and let it spin for 5 minutes and then let it all settle in a dark corner in my home ???and then pour the top portion of that container after a few weeks have passed ?? into the fuel tank of my, hopefully,, musso.... and afterwards the Indian idiom comes into effect "just take it and go" no boiling, ? nothing ???no sacrificing 20 blonde virgins ??? this will be my final confirmation if you say yes, i will only post i this thread if i have further issues..

dont know if its worth adding, but waste cooking oil here ISNT vegetable oil, it is used coconut and used palm oil... hope that is the same thing..

[Corporal_Canada]

that is what i am thinking, just 50/50 diesel and wvo and hopefully i wont have caramelization or clogged injectors, sorry abou the other idea with the electriccar, i dont want to picture myself racing Filipinoe Mad Max in the Philippines, im 43, my reflexes arent the same , maybe the Aptera concept looks really cool to me... maybe i will do it as a side project someday..
so paraffin and kerosene are essentially the same ??? because i do occasionally see kerosene at a gas station for 70 pesos a liter, diesel still cheaper..
sorry im from the french part of Canada.. you ,know Quebec ? the part that hates everyone ? especially the US ..; so i dont know anything in regards to their air force, i mean i dont hate them but there is ZERO US information to me about anything they do unless Quebec tries to put them down for example.. the Fiji earthquake, Canada gave x billion dollars and the reporter chuckled ashe said the US gave a fraction of that amount to Fiji (or was it Haiti ???), i dont get that arrogance..im only arrogant about being Canadian, the country that defeated ALL global super powers... and never lost... being Quebecer is such a headache its a miracle Celine Dion didnt nose dive off the Titanic during her stupid song

[tillyfromparadise]

From now on I will just call Paraffin Kerosene. That is what it is called here in Australia and in the USA.

Yes, you can run a diesel engine on 100% kerosene. In the USA and Canada #1 diesel which is the diesel fuel used in very cold winter climates IS KEROSENE. There may be a few additives mostly to improve lubricity.

The fuel used in most commercial jet engines is kerosene and is called Jet A or Jet A1. They are often called Aviation Turbine Fuel or Avtur for short.
The US army and Air force calls their version of Jet A JP-8. The US military uses JP 8 (kerosene) as a universal fuel for all their Jet and diesel engines.
The US Navy uses a higher flashpoint Kerosene for use on carriers called JP-5
Most of the kerosene manufactured in Australia is used as Avtur. It will run fine in a diesel engine. There may be a lubricity problem so it is probably wise to add a bit of biodiesel or WVO.

There is a jet fuel called JET B which is only used in very cold areas of the world. Jet B is also called "Wide cut" and contains more of the lighter fraction (gasoline) portion when distilling crude oil. Jet B has a lower flash point and is not used elsewhere because of the increased fire danger.
The US military calls Jet B JP-4.

If Diesel is that much cheaper than Kerosene I would use diesel.

[Corporal_Canada]

yeah that is the car im aiming for there is a 2000 ssangong musso in pampanga, 2-3 days travel for those terrified of airplanes.. only 180,000
try to guess how much i DONT have at this moment i am working on it however
so
5L paraffin and 5L wvo....
and can paraffin be safely injected into the combustion cylinder ??? from what little i remember from High school.. diesel compresses AIR and injects diesel to ignite it... no spark needed

paraffin goes for 600 php for 2 L, it actually makes more sense to buy diesel at 50-70 pesos per L
sorry thatis the socialist in me talking
i have an impact drill, i just need the mixer bit and i can spin the mixture of wvo and diesel together and boom... no im sad now, you robbed me of my joy...
im just trying to drive for free, as ive said im from Canada so ive been a slave to all petrol stations my entire life, my next option is either purchase a subcompact car IE toyota wigo.. or that Indian Suzuki Alto.. and convert it to electric OR purchase a cheapo Chinese electric car and slap (i mean bolt on or duct tape 2 big 700 watt solar panels to the roof.. if a 1.5 hp electric motor only takes i dunno 1500 watts.. and assuming i get the full 700 watts of each panel i believe that is 1400 watts meaning im pulling only 100 watts from whatever i put into the batteries (not including AC and keeping my smartphone topped up)

feel free to share your thoughts

[tillyfromparadise]

Mixing WVO with paraffin can be used as a fuel in many diesel cars but it is not biodiesel.

Biodiesel is where you mix WVO with methoxide which creates a chemical reaction that separates the fatty-acids from the glycerol/ glycerine. You them remove the glycerol that settles to the bottom of the reaction leaving Fatty Acid Methyl Esters (FAME) to put in your car. FAME is commonly called biodiesel.
It costs me around 20 cents per litre to make my Biodiesel.

If it were me, I would start with a mix of 50% paraffin and 50% WVO and see how that goes. If you get a Ssangyong with the 2.9 litre Mercedes IDI diesel it should run fine. I would then experiment with lower percentages of paraffin. Right now it is winter and I am running 40% biodiesel with 60% WVO.

[Corporal_Canada]

fantastic, am i to believe that i found a way to create biodiesel at a fraction of the cost ??? and roughly how much paraffin do i stir in with 10L of thoroughly filteted wvo ????
letting it sit or "settle" for a while is no problem for me...

[tillyfromparadise]

Paraffin/ kerosene is fine to use as a thinner for WVO. Just mix it 50/ 50 and you are good to go. No dual tank, no station bought diesel.
Do be aware that some countries put dye in kerosene that has not had road use tax paid for it. In the UK this is known as red paraffin and red diesel. In these countries, if you have red fuel in your car you will pay a very BIG fine. It would probably be a good idea to see what they do in the Philippines.

You do need to be concerned about water in the WVO. I let mine sit for months or years and do not have to heat to remove the water.
As long as the Oil is transparent when I pump it out of the barrel it is good to go. Mine is always good to go and I never de-water other than letting it sit.
However, if your WVO is cloudy, translucent, or opaque, you may need to remove the water first.

To test for water in the cloudy, translucent, or opaque WVO, I pour about 500ml of WVO into a pan and heat it on the stove.
CAUTION- if there is water in the oil it may start to splash and pop as it heats up. Be very careful of splashing hot oil!
Continually stir the oil. I use a glass thermometer to stir with.
As the oil heats up it will start to clear and water in the oil will settle to the bottom. If water settles to the bottom of the pan you should probably remove the water from the WVO before mixing with kerosene and using in your car.
Do not heat above about 100C when doing this test.
Pour the WVO off the settled water.

Often, as the WVO cools it will again become cloudy. If you heat it a second time more water will fall out. Pour the WVO off the water again and usually it will stay transparent as it cools. To me, that means it is de-watered enough.

Cloudy WVO may also be caused by things suspended in the oil from whatever was cooked in it and not water. Filtering or settling will usually remove this.

[Corporal_Canada]

thank you for that, i understood nothing, my apologies i am severely inebriated at the moment... sorry to ask about paraffin.. im just tryin to eliminate diesel altogether and drive entirely for free... or mostly free... i dont mind purchasing a container of paraffin (IF it is a valid practice)

REread that and IF i understood correctly, if i add X amount of paraffin to lets say 20L of filtered wvo i can theoretically dump this into my fuel tank and drive off ? no dual tank kit ? no 50/50 mixing with station bought diesel ?

[tillyfromparadise]

I do not heat my WVO to remove water, I just let it sit for a while. You can also bubble air through it
WVO and biodiesel, petrol, diesel, kerosene, paint thinner, etc are miscible in all proportions just like Vodka and Coke. There is no need to add heat for them to mix.

In the UK Kerosene= Paraffin. I understand the Canadian name for kerosene is stove oil.
You can thin WVO with many things such as petrol, diesel, biodiesel, kerosene/ paraffin/ stove oil, paint thinner etc and use it as a fuel in some diesel engines. WVO thinned with Paraffin/ Kerosene/ stove oil is not biodiesel but would also be usable as a fuel in the older Ssangyong diesel engines.
In Canada, #1 diesel is kerosene/ paraffin/ stove oil.

[Corporal_Canada]

quick question and feel free to call me a stupid Canadian **** but i was looking up super cheap and easy way to make biodiesel and a Scottish man simply added paraffin and poof... is that legitimate ? or just internet BS ??

[Corporal_Canada]

sorry, i understood that i have to stir the diesel and wvo in a large container overnight.. im aware that i must boil the wvo to remove the water, however i think i already mentioned that here in beautiful philippines, LPG is used... anyway to mix up the 2 without using fire ???

[tillyfromparadise]

This is how I mix my biodiesel with WVO.

I have a 2.5 litre single handle stove top pot.
I have a 20 litre open top pail that Frytol came in.
I put 3 pots full of WVO into the 20 litre pail. (7.5 litres)
I put 2 pots full of biodiesel into the 20 litre pail. (5 litres)
That gives me a total of 12.5 litres of "fuel" in the 20 litre pail.

I then take the empty pot and with handle point up and the opening to one side, I push the empty pail into the oil until it comes to the bottom. By then the pot is full. I then pull the pot out with the handle still pointed up and as I pull the pot out the contents empties back into the pail.
I do this four or five times and consider the mix complete.

I then run the WVO/ biodiesel mix through a 1 micron bag filter and it is ready to use.

[Corporal_Canada]

i appreciate your advice but apperantly i can use 50/50 diesl and wvo mixed together.. which isnt exactly 100% free but im still saving half the fuel cost if i dont need any other additives...

[Tony From West Oz]

Hi, I have been off the forum for a few weeks, so missed the conversation thus far.

I ran my Musso 2.9D on 95% used cooking oil and diesel. I mixed the diesel in the tank and it started and ran well on the blend.
My oil was liquid at 15°C.

I have a 2004 Toyota Prado with the 3L indirect injection engine. that I have recently started running on a blend of Petrol and Used Cooking Oil. I am having a few issues with fuel starvation / air ingress? but will work it out, even if I need to redesign the fuel system.

Do not use used cooking oil in any indirect injection diesel UNLESS you ALWAYS purge with diesel at EVERY shutdown, to prevent the oil gumming on the injector tips and causing oil to spray on the cylinder walls, and cause ring gumming and resultant cylinder wear. (Necessitating an engine overhaul)

[Corporal_Canada]

Having small issues finding a rexton at same price as a musso.. there is a 100,000 php difference between the 2.. and despite the failing canadian $.. that shoulds be roughly 2000$ difference and that huge fuel tank and huge car made me feel good in my no no place... .. so. for a 68L.. i premix it at home.. the diesel and the wvo... for how long. 1 night ? 3 days ? and what device do i use to stir that amount of fluid overnight ???