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    Mazda Bravo / Ford Courier 2.5 Turbodiesel on WVO Blends

    I have some time with my new Courier.
    The following issues have caused me some concern. I have probable solutions for them all.
    1. Starter motor died 2 weeks into ownership - Pretty cheap replacement from ebay.
    2. As usual the diesel bug caused many blocked prefilters, I have installed a Facet style fuel pump and a prefilter to suit a W123 300D (I have 3 of these prefilters). I have used the thumbscrew style hose clamps so I can remove the prefilter easily on the road. I am able to clean these prefilters quickly using a jam jar filled with a weak caustic solution. After an hour, I remove the clean filters from the solution and rinse them before drying them out for re-use. I have done over 200 km on the most recently changed prefilter so, after 8 prefilter changes, I am near the end of the diesel bug residues.
    3. Fuel starvation, initially thought to be caused by the blockages of the prefilter, have now thought to be due to the small bore fuel lines causing fuel flow restriction to the viscous WVO blend. I have purchased some 12 mm OD nylon tube (often used for compressed air, but rated for fuel use) and adapters to mate with the fuel tank and the fuel prefilter in the engine bay. I will try to get the fuel tank out this week to install the new fuel line. I plan to zip tie it to the original fuel line en-route to the engine bay. At present I am using a 25% WVO 75% diesel blend. When the fuel line has been replaced, I will increase the proportion of WVO to 50%, 75% and 90% to see how it goes on these blends.
    4. Fuel gauge does not work below 1/2 tank, so I need monitor the trip meter to see how far I can go before needing to refuel and I need to carry spare fuel if I get it wrong. I will check out the faulty sender while I have the tank out. I have ordered one on Ebay so I will need to drop the fuel tank again when it arrives.


    Other issues with the vehicle:
    Drivers seat upholstery and foam pad are damaged - replacements in different fabric, so bought both drivers and passengers seats.
    Radio has a varying pitch whistle on AM - and I listen mostly to our ABC station 720AM.
    The window tinting is so dark that I need the lights on so I can see the speedometer. I have removed it from the drivers door window and am looking to remove it from the back window so I can use the Rear Vision mirror too. I really miss having a Reversing camera - I need to wait for more money to come in to get that

    Overall I am happy with it but it did leave me in the lurch once, so I have not used it on a couple of days when reliability was paramount. Now I am on the 25:75 blend, I am using it all of the time.

    Is anyone else fueling a Courier with veggie blends?
    Last edited by Tony From West Oz; 4th March 2019 at 03:15 PM.
    Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.

    Current Vehicles in stable:
    2000 Ford Courier Crew Cab 2.5L Turbodiesel on Blended veggie oil.
    '2014 Toyota Prius (on ULP)


    Previous Vehicles:
    '90 Mazda Capella. (2000 - 2003) My first Fatmobile. Converted to fun on veggie oil with a 2 tank setup. Died when supercharger stuck at max boost for weeks. Stretched head bolts.
    '80 Mercedes 300D. 2 tank conversion [Sold]
    '84 Mercedes 300D. 1 tank, no conversion. Replaced engine with rebuilt OM617A turbodiesel engine. Finally had good power. Donor for current Fatmobile coupe. (body parted out and carcass sold for scrap.)
    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]
    Parts Car C220 1993 SOLD.
    '85 Mercedes Benz W123 300CD Turbodiesel single tank using 95% used cooking oil and 5% to 10% misfuel (where someone had filled diesel vehicle with petrol).
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab. Running on used cooking oil with 5% to 10% misfuel. [Head gasket blew!]


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    Re: Mazda Bravo / Ford Courier 2.5 Turbodiesel on WVO Blends

    I had one of those - a 2007 model Mazda BT50. Be careful with running blends on those - I tried a 70% blend (70% WVO and 30% Bio) and it destroyed the IP.

    Up until that point I'd been running it on a 50% blend with no problems. But the switch from 50% to 70% also coincided with a change of WVO - the stuff I'd been using for the 50% blend was a thinner WVO than the stuff I was using when I switched to the 70% blend. I ran the same blend in my OM613 W210 Merc with no problems, but I stopped after it wrecked the pump in the Mazda. So if yours is running OK on the 75% I'd be happy with that.

    I also fitted a facet pump to mine but found it wasn't needed. I also had a Frantz filter fitted to the chassis rail immediately downstream of the pump.

    Also, if you haven't removed the catalytic converter yet you will need to do so. The muffler bloke in Armadale did it for $90

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    Re: Mazda Bravo / Ford Courier 2.5 Turbodiesel on WVO Blends

    Mark,
    Why would I need to remove the cat? The Musso has a Cat and it had no issues with veggie oil blends.
    Has anyone else needed to remove a Catalytic converter?
    Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.

    Current Vehicles in stable:
    2000 Ford Courier Crew Cab 2.5L Turbodiesel on Blended veggie oil.
    '2014 Toyota Prius (on ULP)


    Previous Vehicles:
    '90 Mazda Capella. (2000 - 2003) My first Fatmobile. Converted to fun on veggie oil with a 2 tank setup. Died when supercharger stuck at max boost for weeks. Stretched head bolts.
    '80 Mercedes 300D. 2 tank conversion [Sold]
    '84 Mercedes 300D. 1 tank, no conversion. Replaced engine with rebuilt OM617A turbodiesel engine. Finally had good power. Donor for current Fatmobile coupe. (body parted out and carcass sold for scrap.)
    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]
    Parts Car C220 1993 SOLD.
    '85 Mercedes Benz W123 300CD Turbodiesel single tank using 95% used cooking oil and 5% to 10% misfuel (where someone had filled diesel vehicle with petrol).
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab. Running on used cooking oil with 5% to 10% misfuel. [Head gasket blew!]


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    Re: Mazda Bravo / Ford Courier 2.5 Turbodiesel on WVO Blends

    I believe that the BT50 has a Common Rail Diesel engine. As such it does not have an injector pump.
    The last of the mechanically injected diesels in the Mazda and Ford was in 2006.
    Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.

    Current Vehicles in stable:
    2000 Ford Courier Crew Cab 2.5L Turbodiesel on Blended veggie oil.
    '2014 Toyota Prius (on ULP)


    Previous Vehicles:
    '90 Mazda Capella. (2000 - 2003) My first Fatmobile. Converted to fun on veggie oil with a 2 tank setup. Died when supercharger stuck at max boost for weeks. Stretched head bolts.
    '80 Mercedes 300D. 2 tank conversion [Sold]
    '84 Mercedes 300D. 1 tank, no conversion. Replaced engine with rebuilt OM617A turbodiesel engine. Finally had good power. Donor for current Fatmobile coupe. (body parted out and carcass sold for scrap.)
    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]
    Parts Car C220 1993 SOLD.
    '85 Mercedes Benz W123 300CD Turbodiesel single tank using 95% used cooking oil and 5% to 10% misfuel (where someone had filled diesel vehicle with petrol).
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab. Running on used cooking oil with 5% to 10% misfuel. [Head gasket blew!]


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    Re: Mazda Bravo / Ford Courier 2.5 Turbodiesel on WVO Blends

    Correct Tony, 2005 / 2006 was the change over year for most manufacturers. I think Ssangyong with the Merc engines was one of the last hold outs?

    regardless, The only reason I can think of where you would NEED to remove the cat was if your engine was poorly tuned and belching unnaceptable amounts of soot and unburnt fuel, which would clog the honeycomb.

    I WANTED to remove mine for performance reasons listed in the previous post. I think there is a benefit from removing them in older engines as they are probably not working anymore anyway. I understand that they are not a 'work for the life of the car' item and do need replacement in order to continue to reduce the CO and other hydrocarbons. Some say they they are supposed to last 100,000 to 200,000 km. I would bet my butt that most people on this forum are running cars well in excess of this vintage.

    I am yet to remove mine on my current courier, its on the to do list well below other more time critical tasks!
    Regards,

    Cade.

    2006 Landcruiser HDJ100 (1HD-FTE) 20,000 on bio
    2006 Ford Courier(WLT Motor), 10,000 on bio
    2002 Landcruiser HZJ105r (1HZ motor) 250,000 on bio (sold)
    2006 Mazda B2500 (WLT motor) 80,000 on bio (sold)



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    Re: Mazda Bravo / Ford Courier 2.5 Turbodiesel on WVO Blends

    Hi Cade,

    Quote Originally Posted by Captaincademan View Post
    Correct Tony, 2005 / 2006 was the change over year for most manufacturers. I think Ssangyong with the Merc engines was one of the last hold outs?
    As far as I know the Musso was the last IDI engine Utility to be sold new in Australia.

    In Australia, the registered year of a new car is the year that the the Australian compliance plate is attached to the vehicle, not it's year of manufacture.
    They stopped building Musso's in 2005 in Korea but continued selling them here well into 2006. My car is registered as a 2006 Musso but it has a build date of Nov 2005.

    From time to time I have seen ads for 2007 Muso's for sale but I have never actually seen one.


    PS I just located this information

    Production1993–2005 (South Korea)
    1997–2005 (Vietnam)
    2001–2006 (China)
    2003–2007 (Iran)
    2008–2011 (Russia)
    http://www.wikiwand.com/en/SsangYong_Musso
    Last edited by tillyfromparadise; 7th March 2019 at 10:26 AM.

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    Re: Mazda Bravo / Ford Courier 2.5 Turbodiesel on WVO Blends

    When I was mechanicing in NZ I would often come across blocked cats on jap imports, possibly because in Japan cars are often left idling for long periods and never go on the open road. Symptoms are the vechlie has poor fuel economy and gutless, if they were really blocked it could cause the sump to pressureize, engine would fume and leak oil.
    The last one i did was last year on a diesel muso, didnt make any difference, turns out mussos are gutless from the factory, turned up the fuel on the injector pump and advancing the timing fixed that problem.
    If you want to remove the cat you can usually take it off the car, smash out the honeycomb with a drill, and use a rod and hammer to get the rest out, then put the empty cat back on. The advantage is it looks like you still have a cat on the vechile, and im pretty sure it is illegal to remove the cat but they dont have to work. (they are not tested in Victoria for roadworthy, but it has to have one)

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    Re: Mazda Bravo / Ford Courier 2.5 Turbodiesel on WVO Blends

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony From West Oz View Post
    Mark,
    Why would I need to remove the cat? The Musso has a Cat and it had no issues with veggie oil blends.
    Has anyone else needed to remove a Catalytic converter?
    Well it depends what your blend is. Mine was SVO/Bio. If you are running ULP as part of your blend it'll probably act as a homogenous catalyst and help stuff burn off. Having said that it took some time for the cat to clog on my car - about a year of regular driving
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    Re: Mazda Bravo / Ford Courier 2.5 Turbodiesel on WVO Blends

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony From West Oz View Post
    I believe that the BT50 has a Common Rail Diesel engine. As such it does not have an injector pump.
    The last of the mechanically injected diesels in the Mazda and Ford was in 2006.
    It still has a pump. It's obviously a very different setup to the non-common rail engines, but it's still a pump. Funny thing is how quickly it failed. As soon as the fuel reached it, within about 200m of leaving home it failed. I was able to start it but it kept stopping. Got it towed home and it was rooted. I was hoping that it might fail (if it was going to) without damaging the pump, but I wasn't so lucky

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    Re: Mazda Bravo / Ford Courier 2.5 Turbodiesel on WVO Blends

    No wonder the build quality of Mussos is so unpredictable, the probably left a few bits behind in each country as they moved.

    Quote Originally Posted by tillyfromparadise View Post
    Hi Cade,

    As far as I know the Musso was the last IDI engine Utility to be sold new in Australia.

    They stopped building Musso's in 2005 in Korea but continued selling them here well into 2006. My car is registered as a 2006 Musso but it has a build date of Nov 2005.

    From time to time I have seen ads for 2007 Muso's for sale but I have never actually seen one.


    PS I just located this information

    Production19932005 (South Korea)
    19972005 (Vietnam)
    20012006 (China)
    20032007 (Iran)
    20082011 (Russia)
    http://www.wikiwand.com/en/SsangYong_Musso
    Johnnojack
    4WD Isuzu Jackaroo 3.1 190000km on WVO,(2019) 2 tank home built system 6 solenoids heated filter, fuel line and tank pickup for thicker oil. Mk. 9 version now and no changes planned
    Mercedes W201 190D 1986 model: no fuel mods except bigger fuel line from tank, running blend of 90% oil 10% petrol 11000km to date. Motor purrs but car has electrical gremlins

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