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    Indonesia goes to B50 next year

    i know they closed my original news thread down 12 years ago but I thought I would pass on the following:

    https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...next-year.html

    B50 by 2020 is an interesting goal. It will be interesting to see if there are issues in the newer CRDI systems.

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    Re: Indonesia goes to B50 next year

    On the outside it looks all nice aand fuzzy.

    BUT they are not talking about biodiesel. The are talking about CRUDE PALM OIL. This may not be such good news.

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    Re: Indonesia goes to B50 next year

    It is hard to determine exactly what they are doing. At first glance it appears that they are talking about Palm sourced Biodiesel, then blends of palm oil and finally back to palm oil biodiesel.
    I believe that they are talking about Palm sourced Biodiesel throughout the article, but it is written be someone who had poor grasp of what biodiesel actually is.
    Palm oil blends with diesel are not viable in the currently available vehicles without significant concerns.
    They then go on to discuss the EU bans on palm oil sourced biodiesel, which is what this article seems to be about.
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    Re: Indonesia goes to B50 next year

    I guess they want to go with what they have on hand. Makes sense but B50 is a huge step. They might have to develop/import special local market engines. Might be the rebirth if IDI!

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    Re: Indonesia goes to B50 next year

    Hi Chev28,

    Quote Originally Posted by Chev28 View Post
    ... They might have to develop/import special local market engines. Might be the rebirth if IDI!
    The current emission standard for new diesel vehicles in Indonesia is Euro 2. This will increase to Euro 4 in 2021.
    As of 1 Jan 2017, diesel fuel is limited to 2500 ppm sulfur nationwide, while 500 ppm sulfur diesel is available in some jurisdictions.

    You might find that all they need to do is be more honest in advising people which fuels actually work satisfactorily with newer diesel engines.

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    Re: Indonesia goes to B50 next year

    Yes, they reckon their tests have not found a problem with B30 and they will probably say the same with B50.

    Assuming they are right, I guess it is up to manufacturers to update their owners handbooks and warranties for Indonesia.

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