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    Question Ford Trader 0509 1998 - Mazda SL Diesel Engine - SVO?

    Hey All, thanks for having me!

    I've been scheming to get something SVO on road for well over a decade, but stars never aligned.

    I'm now just about to purchase a 1998 Ford Trader, with a Mazda SL diesel engine.

    I did a search but couldn't find anything.

    Might anyone have any experience, or be able to direct me to something?


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    Re: Ford Trader 0509 1998 - Mazda SL Diesel Engine - SVO?

    Quote Originally Posted by panlife View Post
    Hey All, thanks for having me!

    I've been scheming to get something SVO on road for well over a decade, but stars never aligned.

    I'm now just about to purchase a 1998 Ford Trader, with a Mazda SL diesel engine.

    I did a search but couldn't find anything.

    Might anyone have any experience, or be able to direct me to something?

    I have used veggie oil for fuel in a Mazda Capella. It has a similar fuel injector system as the engine in the Ford Trader trucks.
    I used a 2 tank system, starting on diesel and shutting down on diesel, but using veggie oil for the majority of usage.
    Once the engine was at normal operating temperature I switched to vegetable oil and a few minutes before shutting down, I switched back to diesel so that I started on diesel when the engine was cold.

    dieseo
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    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab well body. [Head gasket blew!]
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    Re: Ford Trader 0509 1998 - Mazda SL Diesel Engine - SVO?

    Hey dieseo,

    Good to know.

    Could you recommend a good place to start for a noob like me?

    Am I right in assuming the Ford Trader is a pretty typical/no-gotchas setup?

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    Re: Ford Trader 0509 1998 - Mazda SL Diesel Engine - SVO?

    Panlife,
    I have no experience with this engine, so you should go to the post https://www.biofuelsforum.com/thread...place-to-start
    This will give you the opportunity to eliminate any known issues with your engine configuration (eg Injector Pump type, direct vs Indirect injection, etc)
    You could start using a 20% blend of filtered vegetable oil with diesel to see how it goes with that blend. Increasing slowly to gain confidence. Be prepared to change the fuel filter several times along the way due to the veggie oil killing the "diesel bug" that is found in older diesel vehicle fuel tanks. I installed a cleanable filter in my fuel line, prior to the main fuel filter. At any sign of power loss, I stop and clean the filter. The filter I use is not suited to larger vehicles due to the fuel flows in larger engines. You could try a reticulation filter (12mm hose barb connections) as it can be opened easily and the nylon(?) element removed for cleaning.

    Please keep us informed of your progress.

    Tony
    Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.

    Current Vehicles in stable:
    '06 Musso Sports 4X4 Manual Crew Cab tray back.
    '04 Rexton 4X4 Automatic SUV
    '2014 Toyota Prius (on ULP) - Wife's car

    Previous Vehicles:
    '90 Mazda Capella. (2000 - 2003) My first Fatmobile. Converted to fun on veggie oil with a 2 tank setup.
    '80 Mercedes 300D. 2 tank conversion [Sold]
    '84 Mercedes 300D. 1 tank, no conversion. Replaced engine with rebuilt OM617A turbodiesel engine. Finally had good power. Engine donor for W123 coupe. (body parted out and carcass sold for scrap.)
    '85 Mercedes Benz W123 300CD Turbodiesel
    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab well body. [Head gasket blew!]
    '04 Rexton SUV 2.9L Turbodiesel same as Musso - Our Family car.
    '06 Musso sports Crew Cab Trayback - My hack (no air cond, no heater).

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    Re: Ford Trader 0509 1998 - Mazda SL Diesel Engine - SVO?

    If I'm starting with 20% to test, I'm thinking it's viable to use SVO over WVO (no, or less? Filtering required), is there a recommended &/or bang for buck SVO to go with?

    Feel free to educate me if I'm thinking wrong.

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    Re: Ford Trader 0509 1998 - Mazda SL Diesel Engine - SVO?

    G'day panlife,
    SVO means Straight Vegetable Oil (oil that has not been chemically reacted), as opposed to biodiesel. SVO does not mean New Vegetable Oil. Traditionally, people running SVO are using WVO (who in their right mind would buy New Veg Oil when the goal is to save money?)
    Many people seem to have this misunderstanding.

    When I mix biodiesel with WVO I filter it to 1
    (1 micron). In the summer I mix 40/60- Biodiesel/ SVO, and in the winter I use 50/ 50- SVO/ Biodiesel..
    I will point out that my engine is a Mercedes 5 cylinder IDI engine, the "Gold Standard" for using alternate fuels. I am not recommending that you use the ratios I use without further testing.
    Tilly
    Last edited by tillyfromparadise; 7th November 2021 at 06:52 PM.

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    Re: Ford Trader 0509 1998 - Mazda SL Diesel Engine - SVO?

    I agree, used cooking oil can be obtained for free and after settling to allow heavier contaminants to settle out.
    I settle the oil for at least 1 month before straining thru fly wire to remove larger particles, settle for another month, then thru a layer of T shirt material (sewn to fit inside a bag filter) then thru a 1 micron filter.
    I have used this method for over 15 years with no issues.
    Life is a journey, with problems to solve, lessons to learn, but most of all, experiences to enjoy.

    Current Vehicles in stable:
    '06 Musso Sports 4X4 Manual Crew Cab tray back.
    '04 Rexton 4X4 Automatic SUV
    '2014 Toyota Prius (on ULP) - Wife's car

    Previous Vehicles:
    '90 Mazda Capella. (2000 - 2003) My first Fatmobile. Converted to fun on veggie oil with a 2 tank setup.
    '80 Mercedes 300D. 2 tank conversion [Sold]
    '84 Mercedes 300D. 1 tank, no conversion. Replaced engine with rebuilt OM617A turbodiesel engine. Finally had good power. Engine donor for W123 coupe. (body parted out and carcass sold for scrap.)
    '85 Mercedes Benz W123 300CD Turbodiesel
    '99 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my darling Wife's car)[sold]
    '98 Mercedes W202 C250 Turbodiesel (my car)[sold]
    '06 Musso Sports Crew Cab well body. [Head gasket blew!]
    '04 Rexton SUV 2.9L Turbodiesel same as Musso - Our Family car.
    '06 Musso sports Crew Cab Trayback - My hack (no air cond, no heater).

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