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    Is Plumber's GOOP available in Australia?

    Anybody used this or know of an Australian source?

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    Re: Is Plumber's GOOP available in Australia?

    No its not available here (plumbers here generally do things properly). Depending on what you want you want to seal Araldite can do wonders (small pin holes), and its resistant to quite a bit of heat. Failing that, crash repair 'bog' might be the go.

    Hope that helps

    Adam

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    Re: Is Plumber's GOOP available in Australia?

    Hi All
    I am not so sure what you mean by plumbers Goop but a very good product to use for plumbing fittings is a product called "Stag"
    It has been around since "Adam was doing plumbing as a boy"
    It is available from any plumbing joints and it comes in a squeeze tube or a metal can It is red in colour and it can be used with Hessian, teflon tape or on it's own I have used it for the last thirty years and sware by it
    Cheers
    Chris

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    Re: Is Plumber's GOOP available in Australia?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris
    Hi All
    I am not so sure what you mean by plumbers Goop but a very good product to use for plumbing fittings is a product called "Stag"
    It has been around since "Adam was doing plumbing as a boy"
    It is available from any plumbing joints and it comes in a squeeze tube or a metal can It is red in colour and it can be used with Hessian, teflon tape or on it's own I have used it for the last thirty years and sware by it
    Cheers
    Chris
    'Plumbers Goop' seems to be a product that many in the US recommend, including the BD community, but I haven't come across a hardware store that will ship internationally.

    Thanks for the info about 'Stag'. I'll check it out.

    ...and I found this

    "Stag joining compound" - can also recall it made one hell of a mess if it was spilt anywhere's - especially on carpets and the like!!!!
    Only problem we had and still have when we come accross this stuff is that once the joint has been disturbed the glass like finish cracks and bingo we got ourselves a leak!!!!"
    Last edited by gwalker; 23rd September 2006 at 07:25 PM.

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    Re: Is Plumber's GOOP available in Australia?

    Hi there
    You are on the mark man that is the stuff, if you do want to clean up the mess you can use Metho or since you will have enough methanol you can use it as well to clean up the mess if you make any
    The beauty of the product is just that it does not alter it's composition with time
    You can clean it up with metho even ten years after you have used it, any way it is cheap enough to give it a go and no I am not connected in any way with it, it is just one of those things that I have stuck with as it is a good product
    Cheers
    Chris
    By the way I do not understand why you want to disturb a joint, once you have tightend it down it should be left alone
    If it is left loose of course you will have movement therefore leaks no matter what you use as a sealant
    Fittings that are correctly tightened up should not move
    The threads on plumbing fittings are tapered so they only seal in a small area where the tapers of the male and female parts cone into contact, that may be an area of thread and a half or so
    That is why one uses jointing compound to fill the gaps in the threads behind the contact point, the selant once in there sets hard or semi hard forming a seal so they do not leak
    Cheers
    Last edited by Chris; 23rd September 2006 at 07:45 PM.

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    Re: Is Plumber's GOOP available in Australia?

    Chris, will Stag 'stick' or seal a brass fitting in polypropolene?
    G

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    Re: Is Plumber's GOOP available in Australia?

    Hi
    Stag to the best of my knowledge is suitable for metal fittings only
    I have never used it for plastic fittings so I cannot talk from experience
    As a guess if you are using metal to plastic it should be OK for plastic to plastic I will not hazard a guess
    Why don't you try it out and see what gives anyway it is only a few dollars a tube it lasts for ever if you keep the tube sealed and I am sure it will not go to waste in the shed if you tinkering away with things
    Cheers
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    Re: Is Plumber's GOOP available in Australia?

    Hi all,

    Excuse me for wanting to state the obvious here but if you are trying to seal threaded joints why not use teflon tape. The yellow stuff used by gas fitters is good for pressure and temperature well inexcess of what we are trying to use it for and its cheap. A 50m roll will cost about $6 if you get ripped off really badly and will provide enough tape to seal the average reactor about 10 times over. Also very suitable for use betweeen metal and plastic fittings. Just remember to wind it on to the male fitting in the right direction.
    If you still wish to use a jointing compound, use Permatex 'Form a Gasket' its designed for automotive use, is resistant to high temperature, pressures to about 3 Bar (42psi), fuel and other chemicals (like coolants and antifreeze compounds (most of which contain methanol or ethanol based substances)), but best of all, remains pliable and will tolerate small amounts of vibration and movement. Costs about $15 a tube which should be enough to seal your reactor two, maybe three, times over.
    If you wish to use the ultimate in joint sealing coumpounds then go to your nearest Caterpillar Machinery dealer and get a pot of Cat Hydraulic jointing cement. Same attributes as above but desinged for really expensive earthmoving machines, also somewhat more expensive (if my memory serves me correctly this stuff is about $40 for a small bottle (think hardware store pvc glue size) but it will seal your reactor about 40 times over).
    Now if you have money to burn, go to your local Cessna or Piper aircraft distributor and buy a tin of the sealant they have on offer. Its exactly the same as the stuff made by CAT (infact I think it was even made by CAT at one stage), but it comes with an aviation use release certificate, accordingly it costs a fortune but this is offset by the fact that if your reactor ever falls out of the sky you wont have a problem with the Air Transport Safety investigators.

    Sorry guys, I couldnt resist poking a little fun.

    Adam

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    Re: Is Plumber's GOOP available in Australia?

    recently plumbed a farm boomspray with Permatec Aviation forma gasket. Compared to stag, the best thing about it is it stays soft so its not so hard to pull apart. In the past I've used large amounts of thread tape and they still sometimes leak, but this stuff is great. Just get it from autoparts places.

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    Re: Is Plumber's GOOP available in Australia?

    Hi All
    Well this is good Everyone here has a good idea All those things work of course The interesting thing is that all of us that have done some fitting type work seem to have our favourite sealant
    I have over the years used just about all of the things mentioned in this thread including the Cat stuff (which by the way is made by Loctite for cat) as well as aviation form a gasket etc
    I do remember some thirty years ago buying a tube of Dow gasket forming material for $10.00 odd dollars when the average wage was about $65.00 per week
    I treat it that stuff like it was gold and only used it for really important jobs
    It was amazing stuff at the time in particular for english made motorbikes that where specifically produced to leak oil
    The tube was about 4 oz It is now called silicon and the average tube is worth about $4-5.00 for about half a kg the average wage now being about $600.00 Times have changed indeed
    The funny thing is that I still use Stag but instead of hessian it is now teflon with the stag in between layers on bsp fittings
    Just reminishing a bit We also used to make a good sealant for flat surfaces out of shellac melted with metho which is still available today also called aviation gasket sealant
    cheers
    Chris

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